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jml755
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Tire - "rock in the road"
      10/24/07 07:23 AM Attachment

On Saturday nite, wife and I were out at a new mall that just opened (seeing what we couldn't afford). 17 yr old daughter had my Grand Prix and was on her way to friend's house to watch the Michigan game and called to ask "how do you change a flat tire?" We were on our way out of the mall to go help her when she called and said friend's dad was on his way to do it and we didn't need to come over. No big deal. Figured she just got a nail in it and she could just take it over to Discount Tire on Monday to get the flat fixed for free. Luckily I decided to look at it in the trunk of the car Sunday nite before she took it over. Said she thought she just hit "a rock in the road".

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Bird
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Re: Tire - "rock in the road" new [re: jml755]
      10/24/07 08:33 AM

And a pretty big rock, too.

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jml755
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Re: Tire - "rock in the road" new [re: Bird]
      10/24/07 09:25 AM

Bird,
Yeah, some rock. I'm going to drive by where it happened. I expect to find a pothole and not a rock. It was in a subdivision, so my question was "how fast were you going?" . Answer: "Not fast, Dad". Now, all 3 of my daughters have had "incidents" with cars where I didn't get the full story at first telling. They didn't lie, but there was just more to it. Of course, I think I had a few of those with my Dad too.

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jimbrown
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Re: Tire - "rock in the road" new [re: jml755]
      10/24/07 10:23 AM

You would think there would be some tire damage but I don't see any. So my guess is that being thats a 60 series low profile tire that it was probably low on air plus hitting whatever she hit. Wait till you price a replacement wheel!!!

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jml755
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Re: Tire - "rock in the road" new [re: jimbrown]
      10/24/07 12:57 PM

Jim,
Yeah, that surprised me too, that there was no visible damage to the tire. I just put new brakes on it a week ago and checked the pressure then, so unless it got low in a week, the pressure should have been fine. I got a replacement wheel for $125 (used with 1 small scratch) from a Tire/Rim store. Didn't even bother to check the dealer for a price ($$$$). Considering no other damage to the car and no one got hurt, I don't feel too bad. Heck, we spend close to that to get new "wheels" on our horse. And that's every 8 weeks.

The tire was down to the wear marks and I had about 5k left on the rears, so I opted to get 4 new tires before winter sets in. Tire store was going to toss the busted rim and I said "No, I want it back". Plan is to save it and if she gets married someday, give it to her hubbie, so he knows what he's getting into.

I won't even get into her sister's "guardrail" incdent, but I imagine every father with gray hair like me has been through stuff like this.


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Bird
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Re: Tire - "rock in the road" new [re: jml755]
      10/24/07 02:05 PM

In reply to:

Now, all 3 of my daughters have had "incidents" with cars where I didn't get the full story at first telling. They didn't lie, but there was just more to it. Of course, I think I had a few of those with my Dad too.




I understand very well, having survived (barely) raising two daughters myself.

But I've actually seen a wheel in similar shape from hitting a "rock". In November, 1997, we were returning from West Virginia and on I-40 a few miles west of Memphis, TN, there was some construction being done on a bridge and dump trucks hauling the debris away. About 5 miles farther west, I was in the right lane, cruise control set on the speed limit, in a '93 Ford Escort station wagon, when an older couple in an Oldsmobile passed us and as they got past us, hit a chunk of concrete roughly the size of a basketball with their right front wheel. It launched that chunk of concrete into the air, right at the front of our car. Of course I hit the brakes, but couldn't do it fast enough. As I told my insurance company later, I'm not sure whether it hit the front of my car first or the pavement first, but it went under my car. When we got stopped, I changed the tire for the old couple who had hit it; they didn't even know whether they had a spare, much less where it was and how to change it, but their right front wheel looked much like your daughter's wheel. My car was driveable and I made it on home, in spite of it pulling hard to the left, and me being afraid it would ruin my front tires. But I think the only damage to the Olds that caused the problem was the wheel, while the damage to our car came to $2,830.29.

And of course, I'm sure there'd be no way to prove that big chunk of concrete came from one of the trucks hauling from the construction site.

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jml755
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Re: Tire - "rock in the road" new [re: Bird]
      10/24/07 03:22 PM

Bird,
You're right. Pretty hard to "prove" where the concrete came from, but if I were a bettin' man.........

$2k+in damages. Ouch. Of course, nowadays, it doesn't take much for a $2k repair bill on a car.

That's why I try and stay away from semis on the highway. Stuff falling off, plus stones stuck in their treads that fly off unexpectedly are a nasty surprise. Tire treads off re-capped tires are another hazard that seem to appear out of nowhere. Rule of the road: expect the unexpected.

Also, it was nice of you to change the couple's tire for them.

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Pat
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Re: Tire - "rock in the road" new [re: jml755]
      10/28/07 10:06 AM

If the rim is magnesium aluminum alloy you can have fun burning a piece of it. Very intense light!

If I had kids at home of driving age, I'd install one of those GPS reporting systems on the car. They monitor route, speed and such and can even send you an email report if one of the user set "rules" is violated. If the vehicle goes into a prohibited area or strays too far from an approved route or goes more than X MPH above the limit you get an email with time, date, location, etc. I imaging a G-shock sensor could easilly be incorporated so the shock and the location where it happened would be emailed to you with speed and such included.

When it comes to raising kids... in the words of a past presidient of these United States of America... "Trust but verify!"

Pat

"I'm not from your planet, monkey boy!"


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Richard
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Re: Tire - "rock in the road" new [re: Pat]
      11/20/07 10:28 AM

I think the balancing weight on the rim can be saved!



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CJDave
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Re: Tire - "rock in the road" new [re: Pat]
      11/21/07 11:43 PM

I like that idea of the reporting device in a vehicle. I had a form of that in my pickup at one time. I kept a big electric tester in a case under the front seat on the floor. I could drive from here to China and not have it even move. If one of my employees used my pickup to go around the block to get a donut or an oil filter, sure enough the case was slid out from uinder the seat. You could build a setup that would bolt down in the floor of the trunk that had four weights which were in the center of a cross bar. Each weight would have a compression spring between it and the outer rim of the device. As the side force of hard cornering or hard acceleration or hard braking acted on the weights, they would slide out and not return (use a ratchet pawl) so you could unlock the lid and look in and get the true story of Junior's meanderings.

CJDave

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Pat
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Re: Tire - "rock in the road" new [re: CJDave]
      11/25/07 08:45 PM

Make it into contact switches and a use latching relays and a buzzer and or a flasher hooked to the horn so the horn beeps intermittently until the authorized key bearer turns it off.

Pat

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Michael
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Re: Tire - "rock in the road" new [re: Pat]
      11/26/07 03:38 PM

Or hook it to the coil, that'll learn 'em to slow down.

You ARE a redneck if... you knew someone whose last words were "Hey y'all, watch this!"

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