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Last Monday I noticed a broken drag link on my trailer. Repair time it was. Rebuilt all the suspension on the trailer and decided to replace all the tires. 
The grins only lasted til payment time for the tires. Marathon 225 x 15R load range C. 
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Re: Trailer Repair
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10/06/07 04:37 PM
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Yep, from the looks of that photo, I'd said it was time to do a little repairs. And I can't remember what I paid for Marathon tires in August, 1990, but they were load range D when I replaced the 3500 pound axles under my fifth-wheel with custom built 5200 pound axles, using the 6000 pound axle tubes, 12" brakes, 6 lug hubs, etc. Those axles cost me $729.97 but I don't find any record of the tire cost.
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Re: Trailer Repair
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10/07/07 05:17 AM
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The tires cost about $170 dollars Marathon load range C on 6000 pound axles.
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Re: Trailer Repair
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10/07/07 08:14 AM
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The tires cost about $170 dollars Marathon load range C on 6000 pound axles.
$170 for how many?  I thought they were in the vicinity of $80 each plus or minus a little bit.
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Re: Trailer Repair
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10/07/07 08:44 AM
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That was per tire and I needed four. Our prices up here are a tad higher than yours.
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Re: Trailer Repair
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10/07/07 01:31 PM
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Wow, I'd say your prices really are higher.  I just had 4 new tires put on my little Ford Ranger pickup (B.F.Goodrich Radial Long Trail T/A 225/70R15) and mounting, balancing, new valve stems, any flat repair in the future, re-balance on request, rotate every 6k miles, sales tax, and old tire disposal fee came to a grand total of $426.55. Base price started out at $89 per tire.
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Re: Trailer Repair
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10/07/07 05:22 PM
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A few months back the truck got four new Goodyear's 245x16R load range E for a little over $1200.
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Re: Trailer Repair
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10/08/07 02:42 PM
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Ahh, a "first liar doesn't stand a chance" post.
Try buying a set of 6 Michelin steel belted load range E 245/70-19.5 M&S (highway tread is about the same.) These are regroveable but They rot off before they wear out so regroving is not practical for me. At the Tire rack they are $291 each plus $34.92 each for road hazard. This is nearly $2000. Installation is $15-20 each for $90 to $120 more. Shipping is another $100.
Not sure of taxes but they add up too. The Tire Rack isn't the most expensive place to buy but I suppose it would not be impossible to find them cheaper somewhere but not significantly cheaper.
I have over 60,000 miles on the current set and they are no where near worn out but were installed over 8 years ago. They will need to be retired based on age eventually even though they aren't worn out. Not badly cracked on sidewalls, yet, since I painted them with UV/Ozone protectant when new.
I may be looking for less expensive lower mileage tires since the vehicle is a '97 and has just over 79,000 miles. No use in buying a super mileage tire if it is going to rot off before it e=wears out.
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Re: Trailer Repair
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10/08/07 03:44 PM
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a "first liar doesn't stand a chance" post
 Pat, fortunately for me, I'm running cheaper tires now, but I used to have a motorhome with those 19.5" wheels. But I sold it before it had to have new tires. One of my brothers lives in a 21,000 pound Carriage fifth-wheel with 3 axles and I know he paid over $200 each for his tires. But the other brother lives in a 1992 motorhome that has the original 19.5" tires on it. Of course it hasn't been moved the last 6 or 7 years except a very short trip once a year to get a new state safety inspection sticker. Anyway, he told me last week that he guessed he should buy new tires.
And I'm wondering whether I'm going to have to buy a new set of tires for our '01 Windstar and it looks like they're going to cost close to $500 for a set of 4; $491.50 to be exact, if I bought them right now.
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Re: Trailer Repair
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10/09/07 09:20 AM
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I have found that sometimes you can buy over the internet from "The Tire Rack" or similar and have them shipped to you or your install shop for less than a local tire shop will sell the tires to you (including your paying the install of the "mail order" tires.
I guess it pays to shop.
The 6 Alcoa aluminum wheels and the 19.5 Michelins on my 1 ton Dodge (plus the steel wheel and tire for the spare) came mounted and inflated on pallets ready to install, delivered to my house for less than I coilid buy them anywhere in San Diego county.
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Re: Trailer Repair
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10/09/07 11:45 AM
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I'm sure you're right, in some cases at least, Pat, but I've had better luck with Discount Tire Company that anywhere else. In fact, I've been buying nearly all my tires from them for over 20 years. They've always been the best service; even repair flats free on tires that didn't come from them. They used to always be the cheapest, although sometimes that isn't the case now. However, if you find a price lower than theirs, they'll beat it. And at the present time, they're also the closest tire dealer to me.
I did do some shopping this time; didn't find anything on the Internet to beat the local prices. Sears was about $6 cheaper for the set of 4 and the local Ford dealer was about $10 cheaper, so Discount Tire knocked off $14 from their original price. National Tire and Battery (NTB) price was just ridiculous; about $20 per tire more. Sears' and the Ford dealer's prices did not include any flat repair in the future or re-balancing on request.
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Re: Trailer Repair
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10/09/07 12:44 PM
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Discount Tire. Never shopped there until I had a flat on an original OEM car tire about 15 years ago. (Had been paying about $10 at the local gas station.) They fixed it and when I asked how much, they said "free", just consider us on the replacements. Guess where I've been buying all my tires (for 3 vehicles) over the last 15 years? Good prices (may not be the absolute lowest), don't try and rip you off and I can get a full set installed in a half hour if I get there before they open on Saturday mornings.
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Re: Trailer Repair
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10/09/07 01:06 PM
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BIrd, Of course you are doing the right thing. No single source is always the best service or price. It does pay to shop around to keep your "used to always be the best" guys honest. I don't mind paying a reasonable premium for good reliable install/service and things like lifetime balance and flat fix although I have precious few flats.
Recently I put 4 tires on the Prius and watched the guy do the dynamic spin balance. He didn't like the amount of weight indicated so he pulled the tire and reseated it. It then barely needed a weight at all, just a sliver. He could have brute forced it but apparently that wasn't his style. I like to find shops where a good work ethic prevails.
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Re: Trailer Repair
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10/09/07 03:47 PM
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Yep, Pat, I haven't had a lot of flats, but I've had one flat where I actually had to put the spare on (at the DFW airport) on the Windstar and one very slow bead leak on the Ranger in the past 2 years. I guess I started buying tires at Discount Tire 25 years ago when our daughters were teenagers. I did buy 4 tires elsewhere once when one of my brothers could get them cheap from Pep Boys for me.
And yes, because of the difference in service, I would have bought from Discount Tire even if they hadn't beat the Ford dealer's price.
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