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05/02/07 04:28 AM

Obviously makes picking up chips much easier.

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Nice cart I got two a prisy one...as here

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And a worker one as here....... Sure wish you could post two pics at a time!!!!!!!

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05/02/07 02:52 PM

Yo can use Irfanview (free photo manipulation software available from irnfanview.com, really great program) to join as many separate pix into one panoramic picture and then post the composite.

Nice carts. How wide of tires can you run without them rubbing or hitting when you take a bounce? and how steep of a hill can you ordinarily climb with a couple large adults on board?

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05/02/07 04:05 PM

The blue one has 28x10x12 on it. Probably could go to 12 wide. The geen one has 23x12x10 on it. Doubt you could go wider but could go taller. The blue one will pull a 100% grade with two or 3 people the green one will climb anything that it can get traction for it is 4x4 with locking axles.

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"prisy"?

It's got horns, doesn't it?

Here is the 'before' picture of ours, when we first got it, and AFTER it was cleaned up.

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05/03/07 08:31 AM

Awesome performance and so easily controlled. I envy you. I have used my street legal VW dune buggy in the pasture but it is not geared down enough. The skid pan keeps the grass off the hot exhaust so it isn't a terrible fire hazard but your electrics, of course, are as safe as a horse, fire wise.

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05/03/07 10:55 AM

I don't believe I have ever seen an after market bed like that one. Can you post a sideways pic of the bed?

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Side view

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Another. Jim, I've sent you a PM where we got it.

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05/05/07 04:48 PM

Thats neet never saw one of those. Mine has the flit seat but the workarea is just a flat area.

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06/23/07 05:09 AM

That is one fine looking VOLTS WAGON.

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02/18/08 08:29 AM

Just got one of these. We garden at the opposite end of the property, and that combined with all of the other chores going from one end to the other made these seem necessary. I had to convince myself it wasn't just a toy I wanted in the collection. I've only had it a few days and it's already been useful.

Is everybody else making good use of theirs? What sort of things are you doing with them?

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02/18/08 11:30 AM

I could not begin to make a list I use mine everyday for something. here is pic of whats in the bed right now. Color is off I had to fill flash it pretty hard.

I also use mine to drag my arena and round pen. It works better than my small tractor. Stuff thats in there tha I have used in the last day or two.
Power drill/driver/screws
nails ohm meter
fence tool
sledge hammer
hammer
electric fence rope
tie downs
???
I can't tell what kind that is yanaha?

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02/18/08 11:46 AM

MY pasture buggy is a 1989 Dodge Dakota 4x4 pickup. Goes anywhere on the place, is lighter on its feet than either of my diesel pickups, has a nice cargo box, is enclosed for inclimate weather but has opening windows on both sides and in the back. Can seat 3 in the cab and overflow in the bed.

It cost less than most of the Off-Road golf carts and way less than the better of the genre like the Rhino and such. I have no need to be able to put it in the bed of a pickup or load it onto a trailer to move it to a remote site as it is street legal and can be roaded for significant distances including high speed interstate travel.

It is not configured with a little dump bed but I have alternatives that preclude that being a problem.

If I am willing to forgo road travel I can drop the tag and insurance and have an extremely economical pasture buggie.

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02/18/08 02:06 PM

Pat,

I used my pickup or tractor up until now for any lugging chores. What I was finding difficult was gates, tight turns, shifting gears on the tractor (wife doesn't do manual tranny yet), and overall access stuff. We have another ATV we bought for our son, but it's a sport model, shifts like a motorcycle, and doesn't have any racks or anything to haul. It ended up being more of a nuisance to get things back and forth from the garden with it.
What I like about the new cart is the bed, auto tranny, small size compared to the pickup or tractor, and it's got box hitch inserts on front and back. We're fabricating a top and windscreen now for trips in the rain. It's also a lot more efficient than the truck or tractor in terms of fuel for short trips like we are doing.
Have I justified it yet?

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02/18/08 06:47 PM

My '86 Bronco II 4x4 fills this need most of the time. Sometimes I miss the bed on my 1 ton diesel, but its not a big deal to hook up a small utility trailer or the welding trailer to the BII. Like Pat's Dakota, the BII goes anywhere, gets a LOT better mileage than the 1 ton. Plus it has doors, a windshield and a heater knob. And it makes a pretty good beater going back and forth to work.

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02/19/08 07:21 AM

Justified? Not that it is required but YES! Everyone's situation is in part unique and the range of solutions appropriate for each individual may overlap with the other guy's. The success of my "buggy" (note alternate spelling) is partially due to the scale factor. I am ranging over 160 acres and have few or no close-in tight spots that defy my maneuvering ability with the Dakota.

For the price of a good off road golf cart I can buy an awful lot of gasoline for the Dakota.

On the surface our uses superficially resemble one another to a reasonable degree but really are not the same. The Dakota is full length box not extended cab. I can carry a generator, air compressor, plasma cutter, stick and mig welders, chopsaw, etc. and do some serious work with it rather than use a trailer to haul everything (which I sometimes do if that fits my needs.)

I can do most of what you do with my Dakota except for the really tight close in maneuvering. Of course, there isn't an old Dakota dealership around and buying used trucks hoping to get a good one can be frustrating and time wasting. We have been lucky that this Dakota has aged gracefully and if we didn't already have it, I'd have already bought me one of those terribly expensive off road golf carts.

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02/20/08 09:49 AM

Re: Is everybody else making good use of theirs? What sort of things are you doing with them?

Our buggie, with its wide, flotation tires, makes very little impact on the grass where we cross the pond overflow. The cargo box allows carrying meal and cubes for the cattle that otherwise would be lugged by yours truly. (It's a little bit from the road to the loafing shed.)

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02/20/08 11:10 AM

Jazz, That wet travel issue is a mixed blessing with the Dakota. It leaves less "footprints" than either of our diesels (1 ton dodge dually or F-250 PowerStroke) or the tractor but is still not as light on its feet as an off road golf cart. I have been ignoring my VW dune/beach buggy/pasture buggy which is street legal and is quite light on its feet. It is fitted with enormous rear tires so the heavy end doesn't sink in and larger than stock ones up front. The rear tread is barely more aggressive than a set of cheater slicks so it does slide around a bit on wet grass and of course on mud.

The VW buggy is probably as close to an off road golf cart as you will see short of the real thing but being 2 wheel drive it is not quite so capable in the slick stuff. It does have a fair capacity platform in back above and forward of the engine and can carry several sacks of cubes or a few buckets of xxx.

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02/21/08 05:35 PM

While purpose-built pasture buggies do get the job done, it's real hard to beat a good used '51 Buick Roadmaster with the rear seat jerked out.

That 360-cubic inch straight eight and the Dynaflo transmission can make cruising the weeds akin to driving on a cloud.

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02/22/08 10:34 AM

But Dave if you had one in half decent shape that ran you could probably sell it for more than enough to buy a new UTV.

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02/22/08 01:10 PM

When I wuz still in skool in da early-early sixties I worked weekends in a big wrecking yard. I could not COUNT the number of early model Boo-ahs I put to the torch. They were like leaves on the trees. The Roadmasters actually had a lot of stainless steel used for interior ornamentation. The whole dash was bright, chrome and stainless. Some of the big Roadmasters had two carbs on that big straight eight. Of all the stupid stuff I have done, I think that letting a 1938 Cadillac Opera Sedan go to the chopping block was about the worst. This car had come from an estate, was jet black with a finish that you could see yourself in, had been garaged all of its life, and was perfect except for a cracked engine block. Now in terms of restorations, what could be easier than replacing the engine? We had oodles of flathead Caddy engines in the yard. I could have bought the car for 25 bucks and swapped the engine for fifty , and then put that superb relic in mothballs for twenty years or maybe even thirty, and then it would be off to the big antique auto auction for some real $$$$.

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02/22/08 03:09 PM

I used to see more home brew pickups, big tuna boat sized cars with the back seat out to connect the volume there to the trunk. Typically the trunk lid was gone and a crude box was installed like a pickup bed. I haven't seen any for several years now, used to not be so rare. Hadn't thought about them till your comments, Dave.

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02/22/08 04:43 PM

Dave, in 1957 or 1958, I was working in my dad's service station in Plano, Tx, just north of Dallas when a 1940 Buick came in for gas. It was a chalky looking powder blue 4 door with a white haired old lady in the back seat and a black chauffeur in a black suit and cap who was probably as old the old lady in the back seat. When I checked the oil, I noticed the two carburetors and asked the chauffeur who had put those on the car (I'd never heard of a Buick with 2 carbs). He seemed surprised and asked what I meant, and when I told him he, he said, "Oh no, no one has changed anything. Mrs. (I forgot the name) bought this car new and I've been driving for her ever since and everything on this car is original."

That was the only Buick I've ever seen with 2 carbs.

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02/22/08 04:52 PM

Bird, That is a new one on me too but I have not had much experience on cars of that vintage. Older and newer but not then, except for a '43 Ford built military Jeep which of course had one carb with one barrel, and a pretty small one at that on the little Willys 4 banger.

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02/22/08 05:28 PM

Pat, while that was the only one I ever saw, and the only one I'd heard of, if you look a bit on the Internet, apparently they made the Buicks for several years with "twin carburetors, or what was called Compound Carburation."

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02/23/08 02:32 AM

I recall my dad and another guy making a neat little pickup out of the guy's 1936 Plymouth coupe. In the late forties and early fifties, all kinds of tradesmen like carpenters and plumbers had little car-to-pickup conversions that they drove around. That was due partly to the shortage of pickups during WWII and to simple economics. In point of fact, the front end of some early model pickups was identical to the car of that same make. Pre-war vehicles were still quite common in the early to mid fifties.

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02/23/08 02:39 AM

Wow! I haven't heard the term "compound carburetion" in forty years! The two carbs were hooked in such a way that the linkage opened the second carb only after the power setting (the position of the accelerator pedal) reached a certain point. It actually idled on ONE carb.

The Hudson Hornet also had "Twin H Power" with dual carbs on the 308 cubic inch Hudson Six. No big mystery why Marshall Teague won something like 50 stock car races in 1950-51 driving a Hudson Hornet.

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02/23/08 07:07 AM

For those who spent much of their time with their head under the Bonnet there where also other names applied!

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02/23/08 07:19 AM

From my perspective, there are basically two piles of information, a tremendously large virtually infinite one that is growing at a tremendous rate and a tiny one that grows a little shrinks a little and may have a net increase that is negative over time (at least recently.)

The second one is the stuff I remember.

I do remember my first car with dual carbs (not counting the friends 6 cyl Chevy we put multiple Stromberg 97 pots on) it was a 1959 MG-A Roadster with twin SU carbs, the ones you had to balance with a flow meter and little indicator thing on top of the dash pots. I probably still have the equipment someplace (of course I can't remember where.)

We had a 1948 Hudson Hornet 4 door sedan with the rotary radio antenna centered above the wind shield. It was two tone maroon or some such. It seated 4 adults and 3 school age kids in comfort for a road trip of a few days. I have no clue regarding its carburettor(s) but I recall the STEEL DASH. I chipped a tooth on it when my dad parked in a field at a fishing lake and didn't see a stump. When we started to leave the stump stopped us from about 3-4 MPH but with no seatbelts I didn't stop till my tooth hit the dash.

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02/23/08 07:46 AM

Dave, I've seen a few cars converted to pickups, but mention of the 1936 Plymouth coupe brings back memories. In 1945, my dad bought a 1936 Plymouth coupe from his best friend and had a new black paint job applied. That was the first car my parents had after I was big enough to remember it, and that was the car my mother used to get her first drivers license. It sure was crowded in that little coupe since there were already 4 of us kids and then in February of 1946, the fifth one was born.

But of course until dad bought that car, our only family transportation was his company one ton truck with a flat bed on which he hauled welding supplies.

It sure was wonderful a few years later when Dad traded that coupe for a 1942 Plymouth 4-door sedan.

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02/23/08 07:51 AM

Pat, my first (and only) car with dual carbs was the 1962 Austin Healy Sprite with the SU carbs.

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02/23/08 08:04 AM

Bird, I too went through a "Sprite" phase. I went though 3 or was it 4 of them. I liked the Bugeye best. I had one with the hood opening reversed to open like some of the old Lotus sports cars.

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02/23/08 12:57 PM

If I'm not mistaken, Pat, my '62 was the first year they got away from the bugeye style.

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02/23/08 02:43 PM

So you had roll up windows instead of "side curtains" to take off and put into the boot. How terribly civilized and modern.

My favorite one was competition orange with a 3 inch diameter chrome rollbar, the hood modified to open forward so you could sit on a tire and work in the engine compartment, racing cam, ported, polished, and relieved. It was a goer considering the diminutive displacement.

Years later a guy in San Diego was putting rotary Mazda engines in Sprites keeping the Mazda manual tranny, driveline, and rear end. The axles had to be cut down. Those puppies would turn 130 easy with no engine mods. They could seriously overheat the brakes if you sprinted stopped sprinted stopped (sort of) sprinted slowed a little as the third iteration stopping was not an available option.

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02/23/08 04:31 PM

Pat, even though the '62 was the new body style, it still had the side curtains that your removed and put each one in its bag and put them in the trunk, or as the British would say, in the boot. Of course, the same was true of the top. No exterior door handles and no way to lock the car. The back half of the side curtains slid forward and you reached inside to open the door. Mine was solid black with red interior.

At that time, the MG midget was the same car, but the midget had a chrome grill instead of stamped aluminum and it had some pretty colors in the instrument panel intead of just black and white, and of course, the midget cost more.

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02/23/08 04:45 PM

Pat, in the sixties, there was quite a "Sprite Nation" which held races in supermarket parking lots and even on genuine road courses. There was a set of rules to keep things competitive, and cheating became almost a sport in itself. The "Super Cheat" sprite was the car that everybody wanted to have.

I had a '67 MGB roadster that I bought new, and which was quite a nice buggy. I had a hardtop for those hot summers and even had my own home-grown air conditioning.

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02/23/08 06:16 PM

A mechanic at the dealership where I bought my Sprite tried to convince me that I had an unusually fast one and he wanted me to take it to the races. But since that was my transportation to and from work, I wasn't interested in tearing it up in a race.

According to its speedometer, it would do 100 mph anyway.

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Bird, The MG Midget had contrasting color on the seat "trim" (don't know the term but it is the little tube of material between the seat bottom and the seat sides.) The Midget, of course, had the MG Octagon Badge. IT had a fancier dash too. IT had a chrome strip down the side of the car which the AH didn't have.

A little chrome, a little contrast in the upholstery, and of course more $. There were different levels of quality for side curtains. Some were steel frame with canvas over it and pretty chintzy slide action. I had come aluminum framed rubber gasketed ones with sliding Plexiglas windows. They still flapped "their wings" a bit at high speed and werre not entirely weather proof.

My wife drove the '59 MG 15 miles one way to work for her 4 to midnight shift at the hospital at Minot, ND. With no heat and the drafty cockpit she got chilled in the winter and was so glad to change jobs, work regular daytime hours, and not have to leave the airbase in that drafty frigid conveyance. OF course it was fun in the summer, both weeks.

The '66 Sunbeam Tiger (Ford V-8 powered Alpine) had a heater, rollup windows and was quite tolerable in a NoDak winter but you had to be light on the accelerator on ice as the 165MPH capable beast wasn't easy to drive on ice at slow speeds.

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02/24/08 10:15 AM

Not to rain on your parade but I never got excited over the B. I liked the A OK but would have preferred a TC or a TD. There were also hardtop versions of the A (fixed not removable), like little baby Jags but I didn't care for them either.

I did use a B for a donor car once. In the black hills of SoDak we snagged our A's muffler and knocked it off and ruined it. Talk about loud!!! Of course out in the boonies there wasn't much parts availability and we were in a hurry. One of the station guys who drove a wrecker recalled one of those little sports cars that was driven off the side of the hill and crashed was an MG (he thought.) It was an MG-B and the muffler was in good shape and worked fine for us.

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02/24/08 03:28 PM

Pat, I can't remember for sure whether my side curtains were framed with steel or aluminum, but I do know it was plexiglass and the back half slid forward to open.

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