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Re: I just ordered a long range varmint control to
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07/10/08 07:41 AM
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Jim, I know the practicality of the ammo carrier on the stock but it seems a shame to cover up that beautifully figured wood. A very nice looking rifle indeed.
I have ordered a replacement pistol grip for the 6.5 due to my larger than standard issue hands. It has a built in 3 round reserve ammo holder inside the grip so you always have 3 rounds available, just in case.
This 6.5 Creedmoor in AR style (A3 style flat top) is my first AR experience. The only weapon I got to use in the USAF was a .30 M1 carbine (aka pop gun) as I was stateside and not "in country" during Viet Nam fracas. It is taking a while to get used to this "black gun" but I could always paint it with racing stripes or whatever. I noticed some of the long range rifle competitors at the national matches have rifles painted about like the custom skate boards. Makes the rifles look less "menacing and sinister" and more like a fun hobby thing.
My rifle ==> http://www.dpmsinc.com/firearms/firearm.aspx?id=51
Pat
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Re: I just ordered a long range varmint control to
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07/11/08 09:37 AM
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Pat,
I have two ARs, both the M4 style. One is 5.56 and the other is 6.8SPC. Both shoot very nice. I also have a .22LR conversion for the 5.56 unit. Also works well. At reasonably short ranges it hits about the same as the 5.56 rounds. I'm talking 100-200 ft. Just for plinking.
You might want to get some Duracoat from Lauer Custom Weaponry and pretty that thing up. I saw a picture of one all in pink and white with Hello Kitty stickers on it. Not my thing, but it sure didn't look like an Evil Black Rifle either!
Reflex sights: I have two. One is an Eotech of military quality. Cost about $350. The other is a BSA, marked anyway, for about $80. Performance is about the same, though the Eotech should be a lot tougher. The BSA has selectable reticules too. The Eotech, not.
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Re: I just ordered a long range varmint control to
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07/11/08 03:59 PM
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 When it comes to "recognizable viciousness" I doubt if any weapon can compare to the AK-47 and it's clones/variants. We quit taking Jeepchick's Iron Curtain Typewriter to any public ranges because of the looks that it always seem to garner; people would look at us as if we were going to leave there and go shoot up a US gov office.  I once drew the design for a stock that would make an AK look like a Manlicher. That, together with a short clip, would tame down the appearance considerably. 
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Re: I just ordered a long range varmint control to
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07/11/08 04:02 PM
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Gary, I'm going to get the scope rings where the front ring has a short Picatiny rail (or one of the mounts that clamps onto the scope tube) and put a reflex sight on it for when a shot presents itself too close to be practical with a scope. Currently using a 6.5-20X50 and its minimum distance on the parallax scale is 50 yds. I have shot it at 100 yds, favorably but not with a good steady rest and will be interested to see what I can do at 300, 500, and farther.
What distances have you shot the 6.8 and how does it perform? I selected the 6.5 based on published reports touting it being easy on brass, easy to load for, easy on barrels, great long range ballistics, less wind drift effects than .308 and so forth.
I'm probably going to buy at least one more upper compatible with my lower and am thinking it will be a .223 (5.65mm)as there is still some cheap ammo available. It will suffice for shorter ranges. I wouldn't mind a .22LR capability either.
I will be fitting a suppressor to the 6.5mm that is actually a .30 cal can as I don't see any COTS units for 6.5mm. According to informed sources the .30 cal unit I'm interested in will only lose 5% (raw not dB) in performance when used on a 6.5mm. I will probably try it on the .223 upper as well and a .308 if that should happen. Of course you will still have the sharp crack of the supersonic projectile but the window rattling and wife irritating muzzle blast will be significantly subdued. My current shooting situation is off the back porch to a pond bank at 100 yds. I will explore and develop longer range shooting positions, adding safety berms as and when needed.
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Re: I just ordered a long range varmint control to
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07/11/08 04:12 PM
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Paint it with at least some pink and do flowers and vines like a 60's hippie van. Tie ribbons on it where function will not be impaired and let it dangle some love beads. Maybe a slogan on the stock, something like, "Peace, love, and Donny Osmond" or "Don't eat grapes" or "bite my walnetto" but if it were me I would stop short of "Peace Symbols."
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Re: I just ordered a long range varmint control to
[re: Pat]
07/13/08 10:18 PM
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When I bought the 6.8 SPC upper there were fewer choices than there are now. Ammo's not cheap, and I'm not shooting it enough to bother right now. I do reload 9MM and 40 S&W. And pick up any other brass that's nearby as well. I do have several hundred .223 and 5.56 empties that have been run through the tumbler.
I bought the 6.8 upper becaues it was available at a 'reasonable' price, and I wanted something heavier than 5.56.
I like my .22LR conversion as it works well and installs easily. Of course the 5.56 chamber needs to be nice and clean for it to fit as it should. I've had no problems, so must be doing a good cleaning job.
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Re: I just ordered a long range varmint control to
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07/14/08 07:18 AM
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Gary, Ammo prices and interest in shooting and plinking more are driving me towards considering the .223 and .308 as my "other" calibers due to availability and cost. The 6.5 is what I would consider mid priced ammo with variations of a few dollars per box for the same thing from different retailers. I'm gearing up to hand load it.
I have had a new and unfired Weatherby 300 mag bolt gun just waiting for me to get around to it for quite a while (saw bargain price and lost control.) I will be setting up to hand load that as well some day eventually. It would be too expensive to shoot a lot with factory ammo which typically runs in low 40's to high 60's per 20 round box. I have lots of emotional resistance to shooting that expensive of ammo so need to hand load it. Somehow th idea of shooting round after round, each as expensive as a ham sandwich, bothers me.
More rain so I can't get to my back yard 100 yd targets to put up fresh ones and too wet to go out on the property for longer ranges. I'm still waiting for a chance to try the 6.5 at 300, 500, 800, 1000.
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Re: I just ordered a long range varmint control to
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07/14/08 07:51 AM
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Whump! .....ONE ham sandwich; Whump! ....TWO ham sandwiches; Whump! ..... THREE ham sandwiches; etc. etc. etc. etc. Oops....out of ham sandwiches! Oh well, it's time for lunch anyway. How about a ham sandwich?
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Re: I just ordered a long range varmint control to
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07/14/08 10:57 AM
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Dave, I guess I am sort of frugal. I am going to move a 35x70 ft building about a quarter mile across my property and have to store its contents prior to moving it. I am building some storage boxes (4x4x8 ft) out of 5/8 OSB joined at the edges with 2x2 inch stock and dry wall screws. I have done it before and you get most of the screws back as well as the ply or OSB with a few holes along the edges but still good for sheeting or roof decking.
This time I am building the boxes two units high and two units long (8 each 4x4x8) so I can share the interior walls and save on materials.
At the big box stores the cheapest 2x2 stock is almost as expensive as the cheap 2x4 stock so I made $20 earlier this Am ripping a dozen 2x4 into 24 2x2 MOL. Only took a few min (about 10) Twenty bucks is twenty bucks or 6-8 shots with the Weatherby 300 mag if I were to buy factory ammo Which I haven't due to excessive cost ($50-$60 for 20 rnds.)
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Re: I just ordered a long range varmint control to
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07/14/08 07:04 PM
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I found the same thing to be true, Pat, and my "reclaimed" 12" Monkey Ward table saw has done a lot of ripping because of that. You haven't BEGUN to register on the frugal scale until you've done stuff like a guy who farmed near us in CA in the forties and fifties. Back in them days, very few farmers on the west coast were set up to move their farm product in BULK, it was sacks, sacks, sacks. My dad had a "sacker" combine with a drop chute on it, we picked almonds and walnuts into sacks, and even barley and wheat was sacked clear up to the end of WWII. The Midwest and the plains states had long since gone to bulk, but not us west-coasters. ANYWAY, we had walnuts and almonds and we took our sacked nuts to a local huller for processing. Our frugal neighbor took his sacks as well, but instead of closing them with string and a sack needle, he pinned them closed with big nails and then sent a can along for the huller guys to put the nails in so he could get them back! THAT is being frugal; almost to the extreme.
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