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Opinions and comments on wheel barrows
03/11/04 08:23 AM
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OK, brain pool: the subject at hand is wheel barrows. The poly tubs would be better for mixing concrete in, right? (I'm thinking of the corrosive nature of concrete.) The poly can't rust. But, I've always had metal tubs on my wheel barrows. And that metal has rusted away after about 10 years. Then there's the knobby tire; why? For off-road use? Like all the others are used on the highway? 
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Re: Opinions and comments on wheel barrows
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03/11/04 08:46 AM
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I personally like the plastic ones. For me, they seem to hold up longer.
I've been using the same one for 11 years now, only had to replace the thin tire.
My father likes the metal ones and they last about 5 or 6 years. I use his old tire as my spare! 
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Re: Opinions and comments on wheel barrows
[re: fivestring]
03/11/04 09:00 AM
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Hi
I have a metal tub and its as good as the day I bought it 30 years ago. I replaced the wheel about 10 years ago and I repainted the tub 1 time and I expect it will out live me.
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Re: Opinions and comments on wheel barrows
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03/11/04 10:04 AM
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I like the all metal "contractor" type wheel barrow. I find that even if you kep everything tight, the ones with wood handles with the tub attached wobble too much with a heavy load.
It is a pain when you hit a bump or dip, and the wheel barrow wobbles and you have to stabalize it. It is even worse when the thing flexes a bit too!
They are more expensive, but well worth it, IMHO.
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Re: Opinions and comments on wheel barrows
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03/11/04 03:12 PM
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We have horses and use our wheelbarrows every day. After trying several kinds, we buy nothing but a dual-wheel with the poly tub. They hold up well with heavy loads and they are much easier to wheel around.... especially for heavy loads.
wheelbarrow ... of course, we pay significantly less for them at the end of the season when Truevalue puts them on sale. 
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Re: Opinions and comments on wheel barrows
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03/11/04 03:20 PM
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Same as Charlie.
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Re: Opinions and comments on wheel barrows
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03/11/04 03:38 PM
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Hi
I have found that those things that don't last are those things I don't take care of. the type wheelbarrow I have is the contractor type and it seen a lot of concrete mixing. I agree the 2 wheel type would be better for stability but maybe the reason the wheelbarrow wobbles is because it is too big for the person using it.
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Re: Opinions and comments on wheel barrows
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03/11/04 07:00 PM
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With a two wheeled version, I would think it could get outside of its center of gravity and roll over sideways IF you are traversing hills diagonally with a heavy load. I haven't used a two wheel so this might not be a problem. A single wheel you can keep level and go across a hill or mound diagonally or straight up or down. I have a big metal contractor that is probably 40 yrs old, still going strong. Keep it out of the rain and sun when storing and they last a long time.
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Re: Opinions and comments on wheel barrows
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03/11/04 07:25 PM
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Lots of comments in this thread talking about "wheelbarrows" but I can't imagine all are talking about the "same" thing. There are cheap ones, and quality ones.
I have one that is in top condition and it is 35 years old. No rust, original tire, metal, and has been used extensively for all those years. Concrete, dirt, sand, rocks, firewood, etc. When finished with it, and before the concrete sets up, it is cleaned out and dried down.
Rust comes from being put away wet and kept out in the rain and dew.
The two wheel varieties do not work like a wheelbarrow (IMO), and for some they may be a helpful blessing. For me, they are worthless, as I like to tilt the wheelbarrow to steer it and to balance it. To steer the two-wheel ones, you have to walk sideways to get it to go in a different direction. NOT fun, and much more extra work.
I find the little garden variety of wheelbarrows too low to the ground and too lightweight to be worthy of the name of "wheelbarrow". They have a small wheel that gets caught in every small bump. Anything less than a 12" tire is too small, again IMO.
Now to each their own, and I don't mean to imply that what you use is not okay.
So, have fun but get what you like best. Sorry to hear that some only get a few years of good use.
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Re: Opinions and comments on wheel barrows
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03/11/04 07:46 PM
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I had a metal tubbed wooden handled contractors wheelbarrow for many years. It served well, hauled dirt, concrete, garden produce and even kids. Found the best use for it was all cleaned up sitting in the shed gathering cobwebs. My back really appreciated that.
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Re: Opinions and comments on wheel barrows
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03/12/04 11:05 AM
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JazzDad,
I bought a rubber two wheeled barrow in 1996. It has been
sitting outside in the rain ever since. Still no rust. 8-)
I have hauled at least 20 tons of rip rap, 57M gravel, topsoil,
and mulch in this thing. No way in heck I could or would have
done that with a single whell barrow.
The only problem is that I have to air up the tires from time
to time and I once had to much weight on the front of the
barrow and the plastic cracked. Not a big deal.
My house lot is flat but I move this thing over raised beds and
uneven ground easily. No way a little single wheel barrow
could do the same with the same amount of effort.
The problem with the single wheel barrows is that you spend
a lot of effort ballancing and holding up the barrow. With a two
wheel version the second wheel takes out half of the balance
effort and holds up more weight .
You could not give me a single wheel barrow....
The only real problem I had with my two wheel barrow was the
price. When I saw how much money it was going to cost I
litterally sat down and thought long and hard about spending
the money. It was money well spent....
Course, now that I have a tractor with a 4n1 bucket who
needs a wheel barrow anymore? 8-)
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Re: Opinions and comments on wheel barrows
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03/15/04 12:06 PM
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Thanks to all who replied. I got a poly tray unit, with the single tire. Well, I almost got one. Here's the story:
We bought a wheel barrow at [name deleted to protect the guilty] on Friday. It comes in three pieces: the tray, the handles and a parts kit box. The trays and parts kits are color coded- black parts kit goes with the black tray. We got the grey tray, a 6 cubic foot model. I had an employee get the parts for me. We got it out to the barn 85 miles away. Wouldn't you know, they gave me the parts kit box for the black one! I go back to the store this morning with the parts kit box for an exchange. (I left the bulky tray at the barn.) The only help I got at first was from the Murray vendor. After a while, when he sorta threw up his hands and said 'this store is so screwed up', I went to the manager. (Yes, I should have started there.) So Manager comes over to the department and looks around a little and talks to the vendor, then tells me he'll give me the next higher priced one for the same as I paid for ours. I told him the one he's offering has a steel tray, and I wanted the poly. Well, they don't have any poly in the next grade up (blue, not grey). He's going to now give me the display model. I tell him I can't fit it in my car assembled. So he tells me they'll take the brackets off of the display model. (This is all in a broken accent, as Manager did not learn English as his first language.) I tell him I'll have to come back, because I've spent 40 minutes there and will be late for work as it is. He said he'll have the brackets waiting for me in the pick up area, with a $25 gift card for my trouble. All this and I think it's the manufacturer's problem. I think they are shipping the wrong brackets with the grey parts kits. (I reason this as there were 2 OPEN grey parts kits, and both had the same brackets, read too short, as the ones in the black parts kits.) I guess we'll see, eh?
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Re: Opinions and comments on wheel barrows
[re: JazzDad]
03/15/04 01:16 PM
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Lemme guess.... HD?
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Re: Opinions and comments on wheel barrows
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03/15/04 03:20 PM
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You are close, Gary. In fact, the store name nearly rhymes with close.
But aren't they all the same?
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Re: Opinions and comments on wheel barrows
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03/17/04 06:07 PM
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The absolute best are the contractors, when the jobs done and a cold beverage shows up you step on the handles and you have the most comfortable chair this side of Scotland. if it is cold and windy turn it a little and block the wind.
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Re: Opinions and comments on wheel barrows
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I had a similar experience at "Close" about a month ago. The kits were mismatched and in disarray on the shelves. However, the clerk was diligent and managed to get the right parts matched together the first time... after about 45 minutes. The one I bought has the solid rubber tire so I never have to worry about having a flat, and a poly tub so I only have to worry about rust on the framework. Oughta last me a few years.
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Re: Opinions and comments on wheel barrows
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As this post has come back to life I can now tell the story about last Saturday's visit to the same store. (Yes, after the $25 gift card I thought I'd give them another chance.) We go in and buy an airless paint sprayer. I get home and discover the unit and the 6 foot extension (made by the same manufacturer) are incompatible. I go back up to the store to find an adapter. After 2 employees who don't speak enough English to even point me in the direction of the bathroom, the department "manager" comes over. He is all of about 19 years old, and an IQ number a little lower. We explain the problem. He tells me he had the same problem a couple of weeks ago with some folks who also bought the same two (incompatible) parts. I ask why he would continue to sell these parts, which are stacked next to each other, when they don't work. He couldn't give me an answer. The pole cost an additional $76. I used the sprayer. The extension pole would have saved me about 30 trips up and down the ladder painting the vaulted ceiling. The pole goes back tomorrow, and a letter goes out to the store's corporate office tomorrow night. Can you say ARGH! 
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Re: Opinions and comments on wheel barrows
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If it happens to be a Graco sprayer and you do get an extension make sure to take it apart and put a washer in there (not included). It took me several trips back to the store and several faces full of paint before I figured out they came with no washer in there from the mfg. Since they come tightly screwed together and look ready to use I figured it was.
The extension is well worth it though. I paid $31 for mine but it was a much shorter extension (for normal ceilings).
I can't imagine using a ladder to do the ceiling. I think I would just end up using a roller.
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