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Sighthounds anyone?
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Greyhounds, Rhodesian Ridgebacks, Irish Wolfhounds, Scottish Deerhounds, Ibizan and Pharoah Hounds, Russian Wolfhounds (Borzois), Salukis, Whippets, Afghans, to name some. All ancient breeds, bred for centuries to hunt with their eyes and speed.
Any other sighthound "owners" out there? Anyone active in lure coursing (perhaps the strangest looking AKC-sanctioned field competition  )?
We've just adopted a "discarded" racing Greyhound to join and play with our Ibizan. Our poor resident police K-9, a GSD, sort of just tolerates their antics.
For a breed-type that can explode with incredible bursts of speed, they (at least ours) seem to make some of the gentlest couch potatoes you'd ever find.
Here's a link to my wife's very modest web site. The site's main purpose is just to post dog pictures.
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Hi Hank,
Love the pictures and I have learn a new breed. The Ibizan is so beautiful. I have had Shepherds all my life and love them dearly. The best dog I ever owned was a Shepherd and he was my constant companion. He would even ride the fire truck of my volunteer unit. That was many years ago but I still remember the love and dedication he gave me.
I have two Giant Schnauzers now. Freyja is two and we have had her since she was a puppy. Seigir is five and we adopted him just a few weeks ago. He is a love as is Freyja and they have become great friends. Their breed has some Russian Wolf Hound in it along with several herding breeds.
What usually happens to the K-9 dogs when they are retired from duty? The reason I ask is that on another site a reported K-9 dog in Fla. ended up in a shelter.
I have attached a picture of Freyja and Seigir. Freyja is in the yellow collar and Seigir has the military cut. He was matted and dirty when we got him and he will look much better when his coat grows out.
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Re: Sighthounds anyone?
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i have a japanese sight hound of sorts she is actually a spits breed but is as ancient as the get. it is called a shikoku kan. they are breed for hunting deer and boar by sight. she is as fast as the wind! unfortunately we cannot lure course since she is not an akc recognized breed! it is really stupid....they rec. a 400 year old breed (akita) but not a 3000 year old breed! silly americans
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We adopted a retired Greyhound 2 years ago. Absolutely the best dog I ever owned. He is very freindly to everyone and is incredibly low maintainence. One good 5 minute run a day and it's the couch for the rest of the day. He's not a very good watch dog though. Oh well, you can't have it all.
I am not anti-racing, but in favor of more regulation to insure placement of dogs. The hounds love to run, so I say let 'em. As long as they are treated well and placed when they are retired from racing. These dogs are so wonderful I'm sure the breeders will have no problem finding them all homes, especially if they are required to to stay in business. There are certainly many orginizations out there to help them too.
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Hank,
That's an absolutely stunning greyhound. She has nice teeth too.
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Hi Tim,
I lived with a Giant many years ago. Just out of college, in a shared house with two other guys, one of whom had the Giant, and I have fond memories of that dog.
Though police K-9's are typically owned by the department, they are usually permitted to retire with their handler's family, since that has been home to them for so long anyway. I can conceive of certain circumstances where one might end up in a shelter, but there is a strong sense of support in that community. My wife found a Belgian Malinois while SAR training up in the country. She didn't think he was a K-9, but that breed makes very good ones. She took him to the local shelter, and then out of her own pocket paid to support him there until the rescue league could find a home (which they did).
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Re: Sighthounds anyone?
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silly americans
I agree!! It is interesting to me to watch dog shows in other countries, just to see all of the other breeds out there, and how they are categorized sometimes very differently than how the AKC does.
A "Chart Polski" (may not have got that exactly right) is another sighthound (Polish sighthound) that is not recognized by AKC.
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She has nice teeth
That's mostly because she is still young, not quite three years old yet. She only raced one season (2002) a total of 15 races before they decided she wasn't fast enough, plus she got hit hard a couple of times.
It is interesting lots of things the racing greyhounds are just not used to, because they have not been a part of their racing environment; things like doors, windows, and esp stairs. They are a real spaz around those things until they get used to them.
They are very well crate-trained and dog-socialized.
I've heard you should not try to teach them to sit or down, either, because they use cattle prods on them while they are in the starting gate if they try to sit or down there.
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Re: Sighthounds anyone?
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things like doors, windows, and esp stairs. They are a real spaz around those things until they get used to them.
Sounds like one of my dogs. Only he was not a racer. Must just be a spaz.
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shikoku kan
Do you have a picture you could upload?
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Ours has just learned stairs after 2 years. We were trying for a while and progressing slowly. Then we were babysitting for another greyhound that could do stairs and it suddenly became much more important to our guy when everyone was upstairs but him. Then he figured it out for himself in about a day. Still have to lift his hind end up into the car though.
I agree about them being very well socialized w/ other dogs. I do notice that they are more interested in other greyhounds than other dogs.
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Re: Sighthounds anyone?
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Though police K-9's are typically owned by the department, they are usually permitted to retire with their handler's family, since that has been home to them for so long anyway. I can conceive of certain circumstances where one might end up in a shelter, but there is a strong sense of support in that community.
Hi Hank,
Here is the link to Major's story. 
Still tring to get the link correct.
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Sorry Hank, I finally got the link to work.
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sure thing! lets just see if i can get this to work.
its just a quick pic i took a min. ago of her about to chase one of wild cats we have in the field behind the house. she is a smaller dog almost the size of a whitppet. she generally weighs in at 27 pounds but is a little chunky right now....so we are going to work on this.
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kokopelli, It's interesting how so many of the Japanese breeds have curled tails. I guess that's to keep things ON the coffee table. Good looking dog, I had never heard of one before.
I heard the same thing about Greyhounds, too. About being trained not to sit and not knowing common house behavior. I think a mojor part of placing these dogs is just getting them used to stairs, house noises and such. It seems like all sighthounds are couch potatos at heart, once they have had their daily requirement of exercise. My ridgeback will walk the room I am in looking for where the sun is hitting the carpet just right and curl up. If I go to another room he will follow and do the same thing. This isn't saying that he isn't "wound" at times, but he definitely enjoys his basking time.
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We had a part whippet up until 1999. unfortunately we lost her to cancer at 6 years old. She was the fastest thing on 4 legs I have ever personnaly seen. even the brazen chipmunks feared and respected her.
If you threw a frisbee for Shadow and she lost sight of it she would run up to the hill to look for the frisbee. The lab, if she lost the ball or frisbee would put her nose down and make smaller concentric circles until she found it.
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all of the spitz type or ancient breeds have the double curled tail. that would be the shikoku, the shiba, the akita, the kia, and the hokaido dogs. so i guess thats five. there are four more japanes breeds that are considered national shrines....let me think...the tosa inu, the japansese spaniel, um i cant think of the rest but i will look them up as soon as possible and try to translate them again.
my dog is most def. a couch potato! in fact she has 3 beds that she puts directly in the sun and lounges!
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Here is the link to Major's story.
Unfortunately, just being associated with dogs professionally (such as a K-9 officer) does not automatically make you good person. There are circumstances where officers become K-9 handlers for the wrong reasons, and this is obiviously one of them. A very sad story.
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My fiance has three greyhounds and a Rotty (she was brought in last, as a 6 month old). It was several months before the hounds decided to 'see her' and play with her. Before that they just ignored her. That rotty never gave up though; kept trying to play with them and tussle with them. Good thing because the rotty is now number one. But the hounds are nice, easy going dogs. Her two oldest are from a track in CT, they are going on 14 years.
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Here is the equivalent photo of our three (pre-Greyhound).
My wife emailed this out to friends with a couple of different captions:
"K9 Opium Den Discovered in Clarksburg"
"Always Check The Expiration Label on The Dog Bisquit Box"
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Hank, is there anyway of verifying that Major was a K-9 dog? In my involvement with rescue of dogs I have run into too many people who aren't completely truthful. K-9 handlers are getting some unfair negative press over Major on some of the individual breed rescue sites. While this story may well be true, I would like to check into it myself.
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Hank, is there anyway of verifying that Major was a K-9 dog
I passed this along to my wife, and she is already looking into it.
I halfway expect to see Major in my living room soon. At the very least, she will follow up with her network of fellow officers and concerned civilians.
I will let you know what we find out.
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is there anyway of verifying that Major was a K-9 dog
I passed this along to my wife, and she is already looking into it
That didn't take long! When I walked in the door, Alice said it looks like Major will be coming to live with us.
There had already been a few applications for him, but Alice is an active member of the Police Dog Rescue Association, which works directly with the GSD rescue groups.
Yes, he was a K-9, yes he was dumped as described. It is my understanding that 99% of the K-9 handlers, if they cannot take a dog into retirement, will work with the PDRA to find a good home, esp. for a service dog who has done so much on a day-to-day basis, and the PDRA specializes in the special needs of these special dogs.
Anyway, it will still be a couple-three weeks. Major will be neutered first, and needs some teeth cleaning, pulling; they're in really bad shape, infected, etc. In the meantime, he is in good hands, and he'll have a nice home in the country to retire to.
Thanks for alerting us.
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Hank,
It's great that you and your wife are able to provide a warm home for these retired dogs. Give him a scratch behind the ears for me.
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Hello Hank and Alice,
Thank you both for adopting Major. What you are doing is something very special. It really bothered me that this dog was just dropped off at a shelter and his care was neglected especially after years of service to the community.
Hank, I never thought that when I asked for your help that it would result in the two of you giving Major a loving home. Please, if there is anything that you ever need to help Major just let me know.
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Thanks, guys, but it is my wife who is the motivating force behind this, because of her special interests. I am part of the equation of the home, but she is the seeker-out of these dogs.
Here's another pic we received last night. It shows him in a bit better light than the ones on the web site.
He'll be "vetted" where he is now (at the rescue league), rather than coming somewhere new and then having to have surgery right away. At least he's sort of adjusted now and can recover easily.
Then, it's a plane trip to here (in the cabin, no less).
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Major looks great in the new picture. How will the transport be handled? Will one of you have to go and pick him up?
When I was a young boy in the fifties my parents, imported two Silky Terriers from Australia. When they arrived, there was a log of all the people who had feed and cared for them during their four day trip to New York State. It was fun to read the entries filled with good wishes from some very nice people who took extra time to take care of these puppies. When we picked them up at the airport, the two flight attendants each had one in their arms.
Major can look for some VIP treatment on his trip too.
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How will the transport be handled?
The woman from the rescue league will be flying him here, at our expense. We would've balked at this if he had to fly in cargo, but she is handicapped and can bring him in the cabin as a service dog (which, indeed, he is).
If that wasn't possible, we would have drove up and picked him up. But Alice would rather use whatever leave she can get to bond with the dog, here, after he arrives. It is extremely hard for her to get any leave now, with the sniper still at large around here.
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Major looks great in the new picture. How will the transport be handled?
Just a brief follow-up, a true success story for the CBN community.
K-9 Major is home now, and he even has a modest home page
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Major looks very happy in his new home! Good work.
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Hank and Alice you have given Major a happy home. He sure is settling into the house, on the couch no less.
Thank you again for stepping up to the task.
Tim and Jane, Freyja and Seiger too
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