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Road Fabric
11/23/02 08:51 PM
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Just thought I would post some pics of the new 500 ft. road we installed from the gates to where the new house will go. I laid down 12 ft wide geotextile fabric first, then followed by #2 base material.
The fabric was done on Thursday, road base installed/compacted on Friday, and today it got a workout from 10 concrete trucks for the new house foundation pour. It took a beating, but held up very well, needing only minor repair of ruts. I think the key was that fabric to keep any ground water from pumping up from the soil as the heavy leads were encountered.
This is looking from the gates to the barn and soon to be house.
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Fabric pinned to the ground with 6" nails .... the bricks were put there just in case the wind came up, but the nails were actually the only thing needed to hold it down.
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Looking from house to enty gates ....
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Road base installed ....
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Another view ....
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Re: Road Fabric
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11/23/02 11:24 PM
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Looks good, Nick.
How did you spread the road base?
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Re: Road Fabric
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11/24/02 11:00 AM
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I used the fabric on my 800 foot driveway and parking area. You will be very happy with the result. Those trucks are just packing it down real good.
Looks like you have a lot of fines in the stone. That will make for a real well packed driveway.
I have added #1 crusher run to a two inch depth after the construction vehicles were done. That gives a nicer look and it is easier to walk on too.
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Re: Road Fabric
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11/24/02 07:39 PM
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Chris - the best possible way - somebody else did it 
For an addiitonal $200, the outfit that provided the road base also sent a tractor and operator - well worth it to me. The trucks started unloading at the gates, the material was spread out, then the next truck would back over what was spread. Worked out good, but needs some repair after the concrete trucks got through with it. Overall still in good shape though.
Tenebrous, I was also going to add the #1 material a little later on after the wallet recovers a bit.
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Re: Road Fabric
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11/25/02 08:44 AM
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Tenebrous, I was also going to add the #1 material a little later on after the wallet recovers a bit.
The wallet will never completely recover from building a house. The money just seems to fly in so many directions. 
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Amen to that.
I should have added that's wishful thinking on my part 
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Re: Road Fabric
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11/25/02 01:55 PM
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Where can road fabric be bought by a doer-itselfer?
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11/25/02 08:30 PM
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Larry, I'm sorry, but I don't know- the fabric roll was given to me by a buddy in the construction business - he had 2 rolls left from a paving job. He used one and I got the other in exchange for some design work I did for him. Barter system at work!
I'm sure someone here will know.
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Re: Road Fabric
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11/26/02 01:09 AM
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One roll did five hundred feet of driveway x 12 ft. wide? How much would a roll like that weigh?
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11/26/02 07:00 AM
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1 roll went 400 ft, then I used part of his remaining second roll for the last 100 ft.
Each roll seems to weigh 1,000,000 lbs. trying to lug them around 
Actually I would guess each roll weighs somewhere around 300-350 lbs.
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11/27/02 05:14 PM
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You can usually buy the fabric from suppliers that carry culverts and other drainage supplies. Just let you fingers do the walking.
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Re: Road Fabric
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11/28/02 03:38 PM
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how many tons of base did u use? i was thinking of doing the same thing at my place, but the drive is only about 250' long...and any idea what the road fabric costs if we have to purchase it outright?
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I would have to go back an check for sure but if I think it was about $225 for 300 foot by 12 foot.
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What you see in the picture took 153 cubic yards of base. I also had an additional truckload of 14 yds. dumped in a pile to use for repair and additional fill where needed.
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Re: Road Fabric
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06/22/03 06:53 AM
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You answered all of the questions I had about the road fabric without having to ask them myself. Thanks
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Re: Road Fabric
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06/22/03 10:21 AM
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Now that we're up on a six month interval. How is the drive holding up?
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Steve, the road is doing great - all I have done is to add a couple of loads to correct any low spots that come up as everything compacts. The road has handled fully loaded concrete trucks without a problem. The material that was used - post oak gravel - has a variety of gravel to about 1 1/2" in diameter mixed with a lot of fines. It compacts very well and has a minimum of dusting. I'm very pleased with the results. I have also added this same material to lengthen a portion of the road all the way to the back of our shop (barn), plus added some more to make a large parking/turn-around area betweeen shop and house. I also laid some down where I park my trailer so it's not parked on grass and dirt. The surface does soften and you'll get it on your shoes when it's raining, but there is no loss of stability.
In hindsight, the fabric was a good idea to help stabilize the base of the road, but the key item that I've found is to be sure to give rainwater somewhere to go to drain from the road, otherwise you'll always have that sinking feeling  . This road was installed in a level cow pasture, so I used the box blade to create a swale on each side of the road. These swales connect to the larger culvert/ditch at the front of the property and also swing to the right and left around our buildings, where they connect and then drain to another ditch along the side of our property. The impact from doing this was immediate - no matter what the rainfall, water drains from the road into these shallow ditches and is routed away from the areas where we live and drive.
I can get some more pics if I can find the camera
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Come to think of it, I do need to add a picture or two - there's now a house on the right hand side of the shop!  It's sort of funny to see an empty field where we now live ....
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Re: Road Fabric
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Nick,
Glad to hear it has held up for you. The road fabric has stabilized the base well enough that you don't get those little low spots turning up? The ones that are just about the size of a tire?
Routing the water away is a good idea. I'm going to have to do something with my drive before the year is out.
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Slowly but surely the low spots that come up from time to time have gotten smaller and smaller. I just add some road base to that particular area and let it settle in from regular traffic over the road.
I did have an area that had been wet for some time, mainly from before I did the swales along the side of the road. It seemed that in this area (about 100 ft long) the surface would just not harden up. My solution for a poor mans stablization - I did not want to pull up the fabric - was to go get a pallet (about 35 bags) of Portland cement from Lowes. Cost was about $2 hundred and something for the pallet. I used the loader and box blade to scrape away the top layer of road base, just getting down to the fabric. Then I spread those 35 bags of Portland over the entire area, pushed the base back over it, and then blended everything together by running the tractor over it. You could feel the material stiffening up as the portland reacted with the moisture in the road base.
BIG difference - that morning the base sort of squished out from under your feet - the next morning I was able to drive my truck pulling the trailer with tractor on it without any problem. Now if there's any area in question, I just add some Portland - end of problem.
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