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Ground blacktop driveway question
05/08/05 06:54 AM
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I'm waiting for my last load of ground blacktop from our highway dept. to be delivered. I've spread it and rolled with large lawn roller. Anyone have any tips or tricks for sealing it. If I could I'd rent a larger roller. Any ideas would be appreciated. I really like the material and it's fairly inexpensive.
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Re: Ground blacktop driveway question
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05/08/05 07:24 AM
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You may be able to locate a local paving contractor to spread a tack coat to help seal. It will cost 
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Re: Ground blacktop driveway question
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05/08/05 08:27 AM
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I don't know what part of the world you're in, but my brother had a circle drive done with the recycled asphalt. The folks who sold it to him told him that to seal it and make it just like a new asphalt drive, he could spray a very light coating of diesel on it in the hot summer weather, then roll it. However, he never did that; just spread it with my Kubota and started driving on it, and it made a nice driveway.
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Re: Ground blacktop driveway question
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05/08/05 04:57 PM
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Thank you for the replys. I live in upstate New York, we get about two weeks of summer 
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Re: Ground blacktop driveway question
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05/09/05 08:36 PM
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you can def. rent a larger roller from a local rental company. as well diesel will do a really good job, or some home heating oil. hang a 55 gallon drum from the three point pop holes in the side and drive down the drive then roll again. done
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Re: Ground blacktop driveway question
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05/17/05 09:00 PM
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Don't do it...!
Diesel will desolve/break down the asphault and you'll end up with a mess. I used to haul Asphault and we would use Diesel to remove tar build up in our dump trucks.
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Re: Ground blacktop driveway question
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05/17/05 11:05 PM
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The reason the diesel worked well to 'clean' the truck may be the reason it works well to bind the ground-up blacktop together, when rolled. Just thinkin it might.
I was told last year when I had my drive blacktopped, and had a couple loads of ground blacktop hauled in to fill along the edges, that used motor oil would turn the ground blacktop into a very firm product, close to blacktop. I have spread most of the ground blacktop, and like it very well without the oil added. But where I did add the oil, it leaves a pretty firm base.
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Re: Ground blacktop driveway question
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06/07/05 02:45 PM
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Dumb question...... how long does it take for deisel to dry? If I do put a fine spray from a pump up sprayer will it dry or will it get tracked all over the placeThank you for all your replys.
Gary
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Re: Ground blacktop driveway question
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06/07/05 06:15 PM
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Not a 'dumb' question, but I don't have the answer.
I spilled some diesel on mine the other day, and it seems dry to walk on now (one week). I can see where it was spilled and really can't tell if it is bound any better or about the same (except for color) as the area without diesel. I didn't roll it.
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Re: Ground blacktop driveway question
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06/07/05 08:31 PM
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Asphalt is a bituminous based oil product.
Diesel and motor oil are paraffin based products. They may be produced from highly altered bituminous oils.
Diesel/motor oil will dissolve asphalt. Apply enough and you will have some nice gravel with nothing binding it together.
Egon
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Re: Ground blacktop driveway question
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06/09/05 08:18 AM
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If you want to ruin a driveway or parking lot, dump a 5 gallon bucket of diesel on it. It does a great job of dissolving the tar that binds the blacktop.
I've known of vandals doing this on purpose. The only cure is to remove the area and re-pave.
I've had plumbers tell me stupid things about plumbing, electricians about wiring, etc. (And don't get me started on the subject of veterans & cops commenting on guns!)
Just because somebody's a "professional" doesn't mean they know what they are talking about. Many have learned by rote how to do a particular job, but have no real understanding of what they are doing.
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06/11/05 09:06 PM
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Just a small thing but please note that the difference between a professional and an expert is that the pro gets paid and the expert is very knowledgeable. They may or may not be the same person.
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Re: Ground blacktop driveway question
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06/13/05 07:27 AM
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Well said!
It should also be noted that a string of letters after a name do not guarantee expertise. Often the only result of an advanced education is to fill a head with just enough information to shut down any further learning. My father describes such people as being "educated beyond their intelligence".
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Re: Ground blacktop driveway question
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06/13/05 09:09 AM
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In reply to:
a string of letters after a name do not guarantee expertise
This reminds me of a college English professor I knew over 30 years ago; one of those individuals you like instantly and quickly realize he has both the education (Phd of course) and common sense. He also liked to joke and said, "You know what those letters are, don't you? Everyone knows what BS is, MS is more of the same, and Phd is piled higher and deeper."
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result of an advanced education is to fill a head with just enough information to shut down any further learning
Yep, I know of one like that, too. He, also, had a Phd and thought he should be promoted because of that education, but he just couldn't pass the civil service written exam for promotion.
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Re: Ground blacktop driveway question
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06/13/05 04:05 PM
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Was this a response to something I said? 
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Re: Ground blacktop driveway question
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06/13/05 08:04 PM
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Naw, what Bird passed on:
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The folks who sold it to him told him that to seal it and make it just like a new asphalt drive, he could spray a very light coating of diesel on it in the hot summer weather, then roll it.
Feller that said that was daft. Or mebbe making sure he had another paying job down the road, replacing that driveway.
Either that, or we're just jacking our jaws!
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Re: Ground blacktop driveway question
[re: BlueRidge]
06/14/05 03:08 PM
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I live down in Texas and my neighbor black-topped his driveway and now since we only get 2 weeks of winter if we are lucky, it stays extrememly hot and sometimes gooey. I helpd his wife change her tire the other day and my jack sank in the asphalt. Also the entry way of the house is now stained black from shoes.
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