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Cattle are sold how?
10/30/06 03:47 PM
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I have a question for some of the cattlemen on the forum. I have been watching the local stockyard's website and following the sale prices. For example the site will have columns for: calves, weight, low end dollars, high end dollars and average dollars, say low end is 38.00 high end is 120.00 and the average is 79.00. Is this per head or per 100 lbs of weight?  Thanks.
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Re: Cattle are sold how?
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10/30/06 04:27 PM
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Michael, it can get confusing at an auction sometimes (at least to me) because animal sold for breeding purposes, such as bred cows and some bulls, have people bidding a dollar amount per animal. However those sold for slaughter are usually bid per 100 weight, which is what I think you are referring to.
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Re: Cattle are sold how?
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10/31/06 07:18 AM
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Thanks Bird, I have been thinking about putting a few head (3-4)on my land and I'm trying to do a little research beforehand.
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Re: Cattle are sold how?
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10/31/06 04:08 PM
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Michael, What is your intentions? Just curious if you want something to tromp and eat grass down or if you want to raise your own beef or what.
I have been fixing up some of my handling facilities inside and adjacent to my "hay" barn in preparation for a trip to the SOLA (Southern Oklahgoma Livestock Auction) to get a batch of weeners (not wieners.) I have to keep reminding myself of a couple things:
1. The best way to end up with $20K in the cattle account at the end of the year is to start with at least $40K-$60K and
2. buy low sell high (I seem to have a lot of trouble with the second one.
I don't particularly like the commercial breeds that I know are best for me but I have to buy what sells. If I were doing it for something to look at out in the pasture I'd go for "Low Line Angus" and or Dexter but they are a narrow niche animal when trying to be commercial.
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Re: Cattle are sold how?
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10/31/06 09:11 PM
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My three year old daughter loves to watch cows, so just a few to cut back on my bush hogging and let her have her "own" cow. The fact that the Mother-in-law hates that Maddie loves the cows doesn't discourage me either  . If I decide to get a couple, they will probably die of old age on the property, not in it for money or meat.
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Re: Cattle are sold how?
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11/01/06 08:36 PM
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Michael, I got it. I strongly recommend Dexter. Northern Ireland in origin and quite hardy. They are way smaller than commercial beef cattle, have good dispositions usually and are hardy. They will be kinder to the fences and such and tame down like big dogs.
These are not misshapen dwarfs with all sorts of medical problems. They are just smaller cattle.
Low LIne Angus are another good search target for your Google.
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Re: Cattle are sold how?
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11/02/06 08:24 AM
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Will do, thanks.
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Re: Cattle are sold how?
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11/06/06 01:23 PM
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There was a posting on here a while back about some smaller cattle that were black front and back with white in the middle. They looked like Oreo Cookies with legs!
Belted Gallaway? See the second one down on this page: Belted Galloway
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Re: Cattle are sold how?
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11/06/06 01:26 PM
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Here's a thread about miniature cattle: Miniature Cattle
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Re: Cattle are sold how?
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11/09/06 10:59 AM
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You may hear erroneous commentary about how miniature breeds of cattle are not healthy and robust due to the way some were developed. This is certainly true with miniature horses which to me seem grotesquely malformed. Ditto some miniature dogs (not neccessarily grotesque but certainly not robust.)
This IS NOT the case with some breeds of cattle like the Dexter and Low Line Angus. They were not bred from inferior stock, just smaller stock. They are as or more healthy and robust as any breed. Surely no one believes smaller individuals (not talking dwarfs or midgets here) are less healthy than their larger relatives. Take a look around a retirement home, assisted care facility, or similar. Do you see a lot of really large folks? Well, large does not equate to health.
A couple days ago I bought some (9) small cattle, average weight is about 430 lbs. I fully expect they will get significantly larger as they are black angus (not low line) They look to be about 5-7 months old and were recently separated from thier mommas. They are all heifers and will be used in a breeding experiment I want to do. If I had the time and facilities I'd be getting another 10-12 to put with a small (but not low line) angus bull with a history of low birthweight calves with good weight gain.
I wish there were a reliable commercial market for low line angus and or Dexter in this area but for the most part that is not the case. They are a niche market and often are raised by folks in the same vein as Emu, alpacca, and llama, practically a pyramid scheme where your principal market is to folks who want to sell to others hoping to cash in on the upswing of popularity. Eventually (and it doesn't take that long) everyone who wants any has them and there is virtually no market for them.
The way to be successful in a pyramid operation is to get in early in the boom and to get out before the inevitable bust.
There is still one unexploited camelid left in South America, the Viacunya. Get in on the ground floor, import viacunyas.
Raise viacunyas for fun and profit!!!
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Re: Cattle are sold how?
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11/09/06 07:05 PM
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Pat:
Did you mean Vicuñas? Or is this one of your "alternate" spellings?
BTW...do you know how to make the little squiggly mark over the n?
Vicuñas ???...Hmmmm?!!
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Re: Cattle are sold how?
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Adron, The only way I presently have of puting a "TILDE" over a letter is by copying it in test somewhere and pasting it.
If you GOOGLE on viacuna you will find a lot of other folks who use my alternate spelling.
Anyway, you know the diminuitive camelid to which I refer and that is currently an endangered species and for which popularity with back yard breeders in the USA could only prove to improve their numbers and save then from extinction. That image could help prevent or lessen the shouts of PONZI.
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Re: Cattle are sold how?
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11/12/06 07:20 PM
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Michael,
Seeing as you are from Texas, May I offer that you look into raising a couple of Longhorn. They are a good strong breed of cattle that managed to survive in west Texas with not much more than scenery to live on. And as you know there ain't a whole lot to look at in west Texas. They are also a very gental cattle who take care of them self with little needed in the way of cattle maintance.
A lot of people are somewhat stand offish because of the horns, however a Longhorn knows exactly where the horn tip is at all times and are not known to make use of them to a human. With a hands on approach to raising, they tend to be more of a pet.
If you are looking at raising for meat, Longhorn meat is the healthiest beef on the market.
Do a little research, you may find that they will fit you need or want very well.
If you would like to visit a herd, let me know, your welcome come down anytime.
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Re: Cattle are sold how?
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11/13/06 07:24 AM
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Went to a goat auction just recently. They kept changing the method of sale so often, sometimes on the same group, I was certainly confused. I believe I'll need to go to a few more before I'll do any bidding.
>Pat, I certainly understand PONZI. Until just recently I continued to pay into Social Security.
>So that is an "official" alternate spelling? Google:Your search - viacunyas - did not match any documents.
>While holding down on the ALT key, press 1,6,4 on the numberpad then release the ALT key. ñ BTW, 155 is the extended ascii code for ¢. As in my 2¢ worth.
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Re: Cattle are sold how?
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Adron, I thought three different times I won the bid on a lot of heifers but didn't. Eventually I realized the auctioineer was making eye contact with the guy immediately above and behind me (contract buyer.) I can just barely track the action.
About the way to get any symbol in the set whether or not it is on the keyboard... Yeah, I know the method, just didn't recall the "number" for the tilde. You can also get hearts, spades, diamonds, and puppy dog feet (AKA clubs) This was one of the first of the IBM "secrets" I learned when getting my degree in computer science. ☺ ¢ £ ■ ² ⁿ √ Other useful symbols?
Googled on viacuna... Here are the first two hits...
guanaco
Most of us are familiar with the llama, but this family (Camelidae) also includes the viacuna (viacuna and llama live in the Andes), and out on the pampa... ...
www.metnet.state.mt.us/special/FOV7-0000D992/I000B8598 - 15k - Cached - Similar pages
The White Falcon Project -
They are larger than viacuna and not as "stocky" as llamas... in short they seem to me a graceful, long legged, "prairie adapted" animal which looks like a ...
www.opi.state.mt.us/wtfalcon/Guanaco.html - 4k - Cached - Similar pages
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