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Horse Stall Feed Bin Alternatives
08/23/04 06:47 AM
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Our stalls have the typical vertical bars with the square opening in one lower corner through which we dump grain into a feed bin that we've mounted to the inside wall of the stall.
The leftover grain residue attracts flies...a lot of flies despite the automatic, battery powered, fly spray dispensers we have in each stall (on the opposite wall from the feed bin).
My wife wants me to remove the feed bins and replace them with a bucket hanger on which she will hang, what else, a bucket into which we will dump the feed. The removable bucket will be easier to clean than the fixed in place bin (even though it has a removable drain plug).
Your comments and suggestions?
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Re: Horse Stall Feed Bin Alternatives
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08/23/04 08:22 AM
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My first question is: Why do you have left over grain? When ever I see left over grain, I know I have a sick horse or at least one I need to keep an eye on (my very old mare can go off feed for a while with out an apparent cause).
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Re: Horse Stall Feed Bin Alternatives
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08/23/04 08:49 AM
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Why do you have left over grain?
I should have made that clearer. There's no leftover grain. It's the residue from the grain (sweet feed, in combination with senior feed, for some of the horses) that attracts the flies. (I edited my original post.).
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Re: Horse Stall Feed Bin Alternatives
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08/23/04 02:06 PM
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OK, I understand. I see nothing wrong with using buckets, but do you have the plastic corner feeders?
Don't know if this will help. When I put these in, I put studs in (the kind that have wood screw threads on one end and reguler bolt threads on the other) and then used wing nuts. This way they could be removed for cleaning.
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Re: Horse Stall Feed Bin Alternatives
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08/23/04 03:07 PM
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We have the stall feeders where the door opens up and you put your hay and grain in and close it back up. We get residue in the bottom and just pick it out once a week or so. I really think you'll just be chasing your tail with the fly problem. It's livestock you're going to have flys unless you get a full barn mist system.
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but do you have the plastic corner feeders?
Yep, we have the plastic corner feeders. Attached is a picture of the feeders we have.
I'll propose replacing the lag screws with the studs and see if she thinks that would be easier, or just as easy, as a bucket.
cowboydoc: I really think you'll just be chasing your tail with the fly problem. It's livestock you're going to have flys unless you get a full barn mist system.
I agree, but since she does 95% of the stall cleaning, I generally implement her suggestions.  If it works, great. If it doesn't, I keep my mouth shut. 
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Re: Horse Stall Feed Bin Alternatives
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08/23/04 07:12 PM
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Mike, I use buckets on hangers for my horses, and I feel it works great. When the horses finish their grain, I take the buckets out and store them, and I can clean them as often as neccessary. Sometimes daily, sometimes they stay clean for a few days, depends on how humid it is, and how much moist residue is left in the buckets. Also, I trained my horses to come when I call their names, but sometimes they take their sweet time coming into the barn. But if I hold up a bucket, and call out "supper time" or "breakfast time" they come running. It doesn't seem to work as well without the bucket. 
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Re: Horse Stall Feed Bin Alternatives
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08/23/04 08:26 PM
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Flies:
I can remember being able to wipe my hand on the side of a horse in the middle of the field and seening a swatck of blood from the flies on the horse. No feed bins around.
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Re: Horse Stall Feed Bin Alternatives
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08/24/04 08:09 AM
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Just as an aside vets have recommended not to feed grain in buckets because of dust and inhaling particles. Also it seems horses will invariably get injured by pawing at the buckets and get a hoof caught in them.
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Re: Horse Stall Feed Bin Alternatives
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08/24/04 08:24 PM
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That's interesting, Richard. My horses never do that. When the bucket is empty, they usually unhook it and drop it to the floor of the stall. I think that's their signal to me that they want a refill. 
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08/25/04 04:22 PM
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I've got quite a few horses that as soon as they are out of grain and some even when they get the grain the first thing they do is start pawing the bucket.
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08/25/04 07:25 PM
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Oh, I believe you Richard, I know a lot of horses do that. I'm just saying that luckily none of mine do.
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Re: Horse Stall Feed Bin Alternatives
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08/28/04 06:53 AM
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Mike, I'm wondering if you are feeding them too much sweet feed. We mix 1/3 sweet feed with 2/3 (Blue Seal) Strider and have very little molassas residue and no fly problems (from the feeder anyway)  But unless you work your horses hard, they shouldn't get that much grain anyway. They are better off with more hay, especially in the winter.
We also use corner feeders, but ours have more of a flat bottom and are very easy to wipe out (about twice a year). We also keep a mineral block in the feeder. I mounted short lengths of 2x3 to the stall walls and screwed the feeders to them. So they are easily removed or replaced. I mounted ours about 4 feet up and we throw the hay on the floor beneath the feeder. So when the boys are out of grain, they go right for the hay.
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Re: Horse Stall Feed Bin Alternatives
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09/01/04 06:50 PM
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Mike,
We run about the same barn set up that you and others do. I would also echo Richards comment about feeding out of a bucket. Every vet I know, along with personal experience, says you increase the risk of respiratory problems. Getting a foot caught between bucket and handle is ugly.
We have been, however, looking at feeding out of those really big black rubber tubs. They should be big enough that inhalation is not a problem and it keeps their noses to the ground which is a more natural grazing postion. You might think about that as an option.
If anyone has any experience with feeding out of those large flat buckets I would be interested in hearing about it.
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09/02/04 08:34 AM
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Interestingly enough, we use the black rubber tubs for feeding a horse when they can't get into their stall because we're making improvements therein. We put the grain in the tub and toss the hay flakes on the ground.
The tubs I'm referring to are about 3 - 4" tall and are about the size of a large pizza. Or were you referring to something else?
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Re: Horse Stall Feed Bin Alternatives
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09/02/04 12:06 PM
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I used a couple of those big rubber tubs for feeding my goats, when I had goats.
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09/02/04 03:57 PM
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Exactly right. http://www.fortexfortiflex.com/rubberpans.html
I recently saw one that seemed more to be closer to 3' across and about 9-12" deep and it struck me that something like that would be ideal to feed out of at home as well as take to the shows.
Yesterday I went home and looked at the feeders and, though I saw some of the gunk but no flies on it. Though they are much more expensive for a small operation, I think that the overhead spray systems are much more effective than the small battery operated boxes.
Bird, didnt your goats chew up those rubber tubs? We had some Barbados sheep for a while and they destroyed them.
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09/02/04 08:41 PM
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Mark, I think the rubber tubs I had were about 4" deep and 2' across. I kept a salt/mineral block in one and put feed in the other, and no, my goats never chewed on them at all. I had what some people call "Spanish" goats; i.e., mixed breeds; black, brown, and white.
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Re: Horse Stall Feed Bin Alternatives
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09/02/04 10:19 PM
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I have a colt that gets his kicks by fouling his own water bucket and feed bin. I exchanged his permanent mounted bin with a heavy round rubber bucket about 18" dia x 8" high. By removing the pail handle I had two mounting points and I rigged a third in the back. Then mounted it in a corner to three eye screws using double-ended snap ring shanks for suspension. Just unclip the back and you can flip it over and dump it out or unclip all three and go wash it out. He gets pretty rough with it but it's held up good. I accidently trained his daddy to do his business in an old wheelbarrow I keep in his pasture but this lil' pistol thinks everything is target practice.
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LazyJ,
We have a similar arrangement, but we found some rubberized corner mount shallow feed tubs just like the one you rigged up. See attached picture.
We used to have corner mounted plastic feed tubs. We have an old gelding that likes to sit on his feed tub when he's sleeping, for some strange reason. He used to have the front of the tub cracked within a few months. Well one day he caught his eyelid on the cracked lip of the feed tup and tore his lower eyelid right open. Fortunately, a few very nervous stiches by the vet had him all fixed up and he is fine now. But the plastic feed tubs had to go after that. The rubberized ones are great because they just collapse when he tries to sit on them. And they come out easy for cleaning. We've been using this arrangement for about 4 years now with zero problems.
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Re: Horse Stall Feed Bin Alternatives
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09/03/04 10:59 AM
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The CR750-3 corner buckets look exactly like what we have. They have worked out well.
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Hey....thats a good idea with those soft rubber buckets hung like that.
It's not such a problem with the older horses but darn if you dont bring in a young one that's so ignorant or energetic they end up wrecking everything.
Thanks for the picture.
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