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Fly Spray for horses
09/11/02 09:54 PM
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What is the best fly spray for horses? (I know this is subjective question) Everything I have used so far seems to last about 12 hours. The flies are real bad now in my area, and I am looking for something that will last a little longer. I am using Repel X now... Maybe I am not applying it correctly???
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Joe
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Re: Fly Spray for horses
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09/11/02 10:58 PM
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I use a pour on some, but really what has helped the most is breaking up the manure in the pasture. I am thinking about a treatment that you feed the horses, and they pass a fly larvae lovin' varmint that gets em right in the piles.
My local AG store (stillwater milling) is great about sorting through this stuff, but what works here, might not be best, elsewhere....
mike mccloskey
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Re: Fly Spray for horses
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09/12/02 12:53 AM
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We've tried everything it seems. Nuttin woyks. Manure management is the only recourse on this acreage.
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Re: Fly Spray for horses
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09/12/02 07:06 AM
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we too have tried most everything. What works best for us is keeping the stalls scrupulously clean, keeping the manure away from the barn, and fly tape. I installed a tape roller earlier this summer and have gone through MANY feet already, whenever I unroll more tape in the morning, it's completely covered by night. To me, dead is better than shooed away.
I also have success with those inverted "bucket" traps that use water and odorant to attract the pests.
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Re: Fly Spray for horses
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09/12/02 07:21 AM
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Joe,
Sorry to agree with everyone else, but keeping the stalls clean and the manure away from the barn works the best for us. We actually dump the stall cleanings (wood chips and manure) into a 4 cu yard Dumpster which gets hauled away every other Monday. Once I get our new pasture fenced in, we may be able to do away with the Dumpster. However, it's very convenient to have one around. All the things I used to have to tie up, e.g., tree trimmings, in bundles for the regular trash pickup I now just put in the FEL and dump into the Dumpster.
We also have fly masks for all our horses which work well. When my wife cleans up the horses, she will spray them with fly spray. She also sprays them before riding them, but it doesn't last long.
We debated about using the stuff you feed horses to kill the fly larvae, but we weren't comfortable with the idea of feeding our horses 'chemicals'. Others have used it with success, but it wasn't for us.
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Re: Fly Spray for horses
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09/12/02 12:15 PM
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I know that some folks use Diatomatious Earth. Here is an interesting article I just looked up using Google Diatomecious Earth the Silver Bullet - I used DE for internal and external parasites in cattle with success. No chemicals, no resistance build up. It works well in the garden for tomato worms and potato bugs too!!
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Re: Fly Spray for horses
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09/12/02 01:06 PM
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As has been said none of them work very well. I have never had any that work more than a day or two at the most. Manue mgmt. is your best effort but that doesn't help much in the pastures.
If you feed the flow through stuff you have to start feeding a month before the fly season and continue to feed it all year. It's called Rabon and they have to be on it continuously.
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Re: Fly Spray for horses
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09/12/02 02:50 PM
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I'm not sure how much you want to spend but check out this site. www.bitingflies.com They sell this thing called horse pal. I've considered this even though we don't have horses, everyone else around us do and the deer flies in mid summer are unbearable. Sorry but I don't know how to attach the link to this post.
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I guess it attaches it itself, pretty cool!!!
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Re: Fly Spray for horses
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09/13/02 12:27 AM
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Check into the use of fly predators. A biological solution is always best. Fly predators are tiny wasp like insects that eat fly larvae. It is a program that is best started at the beginning of fly season, but should be effective at some level even started now. A few companies in California supply them. Solitude is a good spray. Never been too impressed with repelX. Don't know of any spray application that lasts longer than 12 hours though a few market that way. Fly traps, though disgusting to look at and really smelly do a fantastic job. carolyn831
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Re: Fly Spray for horses
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09/13/02 07:10 AM
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Whenever my wife is riding with a group one thing is obvious.Flies will be around the other horses faces and none are around her's.Her secret,Avon Skin So Soft.Wipe it on a horses face and ears.Her second secret to fly control is vinager. 1/2 cup mixed into a horses feed morning and night.
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Re: Fly Spray for horses
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09/13/02 04:56 PM
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in testing by the horse journal in march 2001 they determined the following for fly sprays
farnams BITE FREE tested #1(chemical repellent)
bio grooms REPEL 35 was a best buy(chemical repellent)
equine america's CITRONELLA SPRAY(all natural)
pfizer's SOLITUDE pour on(chemical repellent) best for pasture horses.
at my farm in nj we use fly parasites from kunafin in san antonio texas. you sign up with them and they send you the fly parasites (stingerless wasps) that are thr size of gnats, they lay their eggs inside the fly larvae and consume the flys as they grow if you start in the early spring you will have practicaly no flys. if you already have lots of flys you might have to do a double or triple dose of parasites to get the flys under control go to www.kunafin.com for details give them all your info and they will take care of you .
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Re: Fly Spray for horses
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09/14/02 01:26 AM
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Joe we use Pirranha check spelling. Anyway my wife works at petsmart and you can buy it by the gallon. I am not sure how long it lasts because we spray 2 a day. We are having the pigion breast out break here in colorado and I figure fly spray is cheaper than penciline and syringes. Anyway hope this helps it works really well for us but we only hve 2 head and have a little more time for the 2 of them you may have more. Jray 
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09/14/02 03:27 PM
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I have been using diotomaceous earth since the start of this house fly season. The few house flies I had early on rapidly dropped off to none. The stuff even seems to reduce deer flies and horse flies. The horses do not object to it being in their feed. I get DE in a 50 pound bag for about $35. It has greatly reduced my overal fly control costs while doing a much better job than any spray I have ever found.
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Re: Fly Spray for horses
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09/19/02 10:02 PM
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We have a Pirana fly system in our horse barn. It has a timer on it and we have it set to mist our barn 4 times a day for 45 seconds. It has a 30 gallon tank that uses concentrated fly spray & water. One barrel lasts 5-6 weeks. No flys (except dead ones) in the barn or in the manure pile 50' outside the barn (which we remove to the compost pile every 2 weeks). Absolutely the best $700 I ever spent.
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Re: Fly Spray for horses
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09/20/02 04:29 AM
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Steve, do you have a website for the Pirana system? I couldn't get any hits at Google.
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Re: Fly Spray for horses
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09/20/02 04:24 PM
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Mike,
It helps to spell it right. Try www.pyranhainc.com. Although you might find the content of the website the way I spelled more interesting  I'm sure you found that out though.
Steve
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