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Joy and grief with dairy goats
07/07/03 11:22 AM
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My wife (Earthmother) and I intend to develop our farm to raise dairy goats, to produce gaot milk. We are going to raise Nubians, and a local Nubian breeder and farmer is mentoring us through the learning process. She wants us to start small, and we started with three Nubian goats kids that we got a week ago Sunday. We picked the kids out at birth, and visited them at their home farm, so we were already attached to them when we got them. We got Thelma, Lousie and Bonnie at about 8 weeks old. They're so cute and affectionate, that, of course, they'll be pets as well as working farm animals. Last Wednesday, my wife was home, working on our construction project. She checked on the girls, and saw that Thelma was panting, barely able to breath. Karen called our vets, and rushed poor little Thelma there at over 80 miles an hour. Thelma passed out several times during the trip, and one of the vets was waiting with oxygen. They put the oxygen on Thelma, and Karen and the vet rushed her in to work on her. At first they thought Thelma would make it. It seemed like aspiration pneumonia. The vets (all three of them) worked on our baby, and told Karen to go home, and they give her care through the night. They thought she had a chance to pull through. But they called later in the evening, Thelma was going downhill quickly, and was only breathing twice each minute. She wasn't going to make it. I was working late that night, out doing inspections, and Karen couldn't reach me. The vets and Karen had to make the sad decision to put poor Thelma down.
A post mortum showed that somehow Thelma had gotten a timothy grass head into her trachea and it had lodgeed where the trachea branches off into the two lungs.
We were devastated, and still are. We love our animals, and goat kids are one of the most lovable of all. Especially Thelma. She had pretty white ears, and a big white star on her head. And she had the craziest voice. She didn't bleat like the other goats. Her voice sounded like the scream of a vampire in a B science fiction movie. But her screams were so full of joy, they made everyone laugh, and love her. She'd scream when she saw us, or got a treat, or played with her sisters. We can't believe we'll never see or hear her again.
The other goats are doing fine, after a few days of calling for their sister, which broke our hearts even more. Bonnie and Lousie are very loving, cute and smart. They already come when their names are called. Their favorite place to be is in our laps, or to be carried. We're still bottle feeding them, but they're browsing nicely and drinking water from their water bucket.
Our barn cats are coming into their pen, and it's so cute to see the cats and goats romping together. Goats are a joy to have. My wife always says that there should be a law that everyone should have at least two goats. No one could be sad for long with them around.
We live in the biggest dairy production area in New York state, and one of the biggest in the country. But of course that's for cow's milk. We're working with local goat farmers and the cooperative extension to try to establish a goat milk co-op. We're hopeful it will work out, but we'll always remember and miss our little Thelma.
Rich
"What a long strange trip it's been."
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Here's another try at Bonnie's picture...
Rich
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Re: Joy and grief with dairy goats
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07/07/03 03:21 PM
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Rich. I can't begean to tell you how bad I feel for you. The story brought back memories of a dog I had, and had to put down. I am very sorry. I hope all goes well with all the others, and the good, happy times with thelma, help you.
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Re: Joy and grief with dairy goats
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07/08/03 08:06 AM
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Thanks, Paul!!!! Karen, Bonnie, Louise and I are doing OK. But we sure miss our little Thelma!!!
Rich
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I've been told that the problem with posting pictures is fixed. So...here's a picture of Bonnie...
Rich
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Here's Louise...
Rich
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Bonnie, again...
Rich
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Louise, again...
Rich
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And here's Thelma, as we were just getting ready to bring her home...
Rich
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Another shot of Thelma, as we were getting ready to bring her home...
Rich
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Re: Joy and grief with dairy goats
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07/08/03 10:56 AM
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Rich,
Nubians are a good choice.
Sorry for your loss.
Steve
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Re: Joy and grief with dairy goats
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07/09/03 12:13 PM
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Looks just like Jar Jar Binks! Actually better looking than Jar Jar!
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Hey! Aren't you supposed to be working?
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Re: Joy and grief with dairy goats
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07/16/03 08:17 PM
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Hey Rich. How are the rest of your crew doing? Are you starting to get the hang of the goat thong yet? Now I hope the horses are not getting jelous.
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Re: Joy and grief with dairy goats
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07/17/03 08:34 AM
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Hi, Paul!!
All our critters are doing fine! The horses aren't jealous of the baby goats, but they want to play with them, because they play with our two adult goats. But the babies are way to little too play with the horses. For some reason, the adult goats are ignoring them, which surprises me. I thought they'd be real interested, because they love to play with our dogs, cats and horses.
But our cats have figured out how to get in the goat pen, and they're becoming fast friends with the babies. Right now they just sniff each other, but I'll bet they be chasing each other soon!!!
So far we're doing great with the babies. We're learning to milk their mommies at our friend's farm. We have to learn all about the milking equipment, and how to milk by hand in case of equipment breakdown. We love every aspect of it, and we can't wait until we're an operating goat dairy.
We're in contact with a bunch of other local goat farmers, the cooperative extension, and a bunch of dairies and cheese manufacturers trying to create a goat milk co-op. Being a stone's throw from Vermont, with all the cheese manufacturers there helps. Right now, we're just impatient, and we wish it wasn't a couple of years before we get in production!!!
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Re: Joy and grief with dairy goats
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07/17/03 08:47 AM
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Looks like you are going to have a busy few years. Glad to hear you are having fun. Thats what life is all about!
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Re: Joy and grief with dairy goats
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08/28/03 06:39 PM
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If you get a chance to pick up a Saanen goat, they are a heavy milker, heavier than the Nubian. And not as stubborn as the Nubians. Of course yours are still babys so you probably havn't found that out yet. Saanens are generally pure white, and very good natured. I have had them both, plus some other breeds, Alpine is good also, but I don't believe their milk is quite as good. When it comes time for your goats to have babys' you need to be there, as they sometimes need help. Like you may have to deliever them, sometimes they will die without help. Not all of them need it but some do. If you don't need to help them the first time, you probably won't need to later, but if they need help the first, time, they may always need it. I loved my goats and their milk, you get use to it, then cows milk taste like its been watered down.
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