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Where did you splurge?
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I am about to start construction on my new home!! As one always hears, it is costing far more than I wanted, but nevertheless I am looking at splurging in some areas that I will enjoy. For example, I am ordering a Kohler Water Tile link here for the master shower. And I am having a home theatre place come in and install structured wiring for theatre/internet/phone wiring.
I was wondering, what others may have "splurged" on when they built their new home, and was it a good idea? I am looking for good ideas and maybe also what you thought was a good idea at the time, but it didn't pan out for one reason or another.
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05/30/07 05:22 PM
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I've never seen that rain tile. That's certainly different. When we built my brother's house, he put a big bathtub in a completely separate room, adjoining the master bath, but with another entrance from the laundry room. Then the shower in the master bath was fairly large and had a regular shower head and faucet handles on two sides, so instead of the "rain" you plan on, he had the shower hitting him from both sides, and he did NOT want water saver shower heads; he wanted lots of water volume.
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Re: Where did you splurge?
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I like the heck out of that water tile idea. When I recently re-did our master bath, I built a large corner shower that has two complete shower sets (his and hers). My wife and I feel like it was the best idea we did. We can both climb in the shower in the morning (or evening) and we both have our own shower head and controls. It's sort of like a locker room shower.
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Re: Where did you splurge?
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Yeah, Bird and gsganzer, thanks for your thoughts. The shower does seem like a good area to have splurged on after all. Anyone else have any good ideas where they spent more money than they wanted, but are still glad they did??
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Re: Where did you splurge?
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Indoor plumbing. But we are glad now that we did it!
Seriously, how hard is your water? If you need a water softener, you should plumb a separate set of "hard" water lines to the outside faucets, so you don't water the flowers and yard with the soft (costly) water. We just couldn't get our plumber to understand this. I guess he'd always done it one way, and that was the ONLY way.
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Re: Where did you splurge?
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Hmmm, thanks JazzDad, I'll mention that one to the plumbing guy. I have no idea about water hardness yet. And no island in the kitchen design, due to layout. I am thinking of moving the main floor washer and dryer from the "utility room" to the master bedroom walk-in closet though...
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Re: Where did you splurge?
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Ian, That's some fancy showerhead! We just built our new home on a budget. Actually, we converted a barn. The best advice I could give is to be creative. One of the comments we get is that there is something special in every room. We did things like using an antique dresser (bought locally $35.00) and a vessel sink($30.00 ebay) and nice faucet $25.00ebay) for one of the bathroom vanities. It looks way better than what we could have afforded had we bought new. We used this kind of thinking through out the house. In our master bath shower we purchased a very large shower head (about$65.00) and ran it out of a large cedar beam that was found in the barn. We also purchased a separate faucet assembly and have another head located in the normal position. We can run both shower heads at once or ether of the two separately. Luckily we have 12 ceilings in the bath and it is one of my favorite things in the house. We purchased all of our faucets online (eBay) for very cheep. Something that you will be using everyday I wanted good quality and it痴 part of the character of the house. Our bath faucet is Roman tub style We paid $45.00 eBay new in the box and I致e seen the same faucet in stores for $350.00 no kidding. So sometimes it痴 not what you spend. We have a web site of our build and you are more than welcome to browse around. Feel free to ask any questions. Not sure if I can post the link here but I値l try. You may have to cut and paste. www.helmickpharm.50megs.com Take care Troy
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Ian, just found your blog, Seems you've been very busy. I knew my post was a little slow but I didn't know how soon you were planning on building. Your house is very beautiful!
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The shower in our master bath is large enough for two. It has no door to close, it has no curtain, and it has no curb. The shower curtain and door are really high maint items if you want them clean.
It is slightly uphill for a few feet before you get to the "door hole" and then downhill toward the shower drain. IT does not seem awkward at all. The shower head is aimed diagonally toward the far corner and NEVER splashes any water out of the shower. The only water leaving the shower is just a tad on your feet if you don't sit down on one of the two corner tiled seats and dry them.
There is a exhaust grill in the tiled ceiling of the shower to exhaust steam. It is wyed in with the ones over the Jacuzzi and commode. It leads to the ERV which runs 24-7. There is no conventional switched exhaust fan in the bathroom but air continuously is drawn into the bathroom from the bedroom and then exhausted. The replacement air is ducted to the great room. There is a 4th exhaust vent wyed in with the 3 in the master bath. It is in the far corner of my walk in closet which is accessed by waliing through my wifes walk in closet. There is no heat or A/C delivered to the closets. The conditioined air in the bedroom slowly is drawn through her closet and exhausted in mine.
This continuous whole house ventilation uses a ERV which runs on less than an amp. ITs heat exchanger saves energy by tempering the incoming fresh air withe the outgoing stale air but keeps the streams separate.
The shower has PEX in the walls and floor so it is heated by hot water and the temp is controlled by a smart t'stat. I have it set for 73F except for a period in the morning and evening when 90+% of the showering happens. Then it is run up to 80. There is under tile electric heat systems that are way easier to install if you aren't using hot water heat anywhere else (I am.) I also have a hydronically heated towel warmer so my towels are always warm and dry. These are available in electric also and are not very costly for the comfort and convenience they provide.
I have a recirculation pump with a 1/2 inch return line to ensure hot water is readily available in the master bath even though a ways from the water heater. I have experimented with a timer to run it when most likely to be used and with a t"stat to cycle it as required to ensure at least 85F water. I think a combination is the best deal as if you are unlucky with your timing it takes a while to get the 85F water up to a good shower temp. So a timer to force the unit to run during peak shower times and the T'stat to ensure at lest 85F the rest of the time is a good deal. The T'stat is not adjustable. It just clips on the pipe and turns on and off the 120VAC to the motor of the pump. A $5 timer from HF provides the guaranteed run during peak shower times in the AM and PM.
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Re: Where did you splurge?
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01/28/08 04:42 AM
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Splurging seems to have relative meanings to different people.
Some of us figure clean fluffy towels and a weekly lukewarm water dip in a tin tub are luxury!
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I would have to say that the electrical system is the part of our remodel that has received the most outrageous splurging. We have the system divided between a "normal loads" panel and a "critical loads" panel, with a generator feed. We have oodles of recessed lights in the kitchen as well as in our breakfast "booth". The breakfast booth was also an area in which we have really gone nutzo. It's a truncated pop-out with three Pella windows and the entire booth sits up on a six-inch riser of gunstock Oak planking with brass kickplates. The table is a six-foot Pecan butcher block overhung slab with a decreasing-clearance cut on one side. The seats are antique church pews that have been cut down. We haven't built the part of the house that will have the master bath in it yet, but we do plan on having both a whirlpool tub AND separate shower in there.
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Sounds very nice CJDave! Any pictures?
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Pat, sounds like you've made some great choices, both comfort and performance wise!
We have a slab on grade (6") that is heated on the main floor of the house. Nothing like getting out of the shower and stepping onto a warm floor!
One of our worst splurges was the Twins all refrigerator /all freezer units. It's a 5'4" stainless steel unit that has one side as all refrigerator, and the other is all freezer. It is very nice looking, convenient and very user friendly, however, the thing never seems to shut off.
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Egon, Maybe I shower more than the national average (in US) but I do not get a clean towel every time and still prefer if it is dry and warm each time hence my appreciation of a towel warmer. I have been known to hang a coat on it.
So you'd have us believe that, for you, splurging is tepid water in a small galvanized tub and true luxury is when you get soap.
I may be slow but I am NOT stopped!
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Re: Where did you splurge?
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Troybuilt, Thanks for the kind words but let me take a slight variance with your comment about nothing like stepping out of the shower onto a warm floor. My shower floors and walls are warmed and I think there is nothing so nice as stepping into a warm shower from a warm bathroom floor.
IF you ever suffer from insomnia, I have offered the cure. Take a look at my thread on the South Central Oklahoma Farmhouse. I guarantee you will not make it through in one sitting before you will fall deep into the embrace of Morpheus.
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Lordy Pat; The last time, just a few weeks ago, that I was interned in the hospital there were heated blankets.
Here at home we must conserve energy due to high fuel costs and weekly bathes are the norm.
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Those Saturday night baths in a #2 round wash tub in the middle of the kitchen floor with water heated on the cookstove were a reality when I was a kid and I'm sure glad those days are behind us.
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Egon, If weekly baths are an energy conservation measure I wonder how long your regular baths lasted. I get all prune like in under an hour.
Were you referring to electric blankets or to regular blankets heated up to take the chill off and give you a pleasant head start. Heated blankets used to be no big deal. You just put a few coals from the fire into the bed warmer (flat metal container with long wooden handle) and ran it between the sheets and all around in the bed to take off the chill. Simple, cheap, worked well, and required virtually no maint. There were other versions of bed warmers too used by my relatives in Mississippi but I won't go there on this family friendly site.
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Sorry bird but I get visions of the redneck hottub photo I found on the net . I"ll try to post a copy in the photo section.
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A second cousin of mine came home and found a wash tub of hot water and thought his mom put it out for him so he could have a bath. He hopped in and soon hopped out burning and itching all over so bad he spent nearly the whole night in a stock pond. Every time he got out he started to burn so bad he went back in. He didn't use a light to inspect the hot water and it was the rinse water from a huge mess of poke salat. OOPS!!!
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I've sure harvested, washed, cooked, and eaten a lot of poke in my life, but never had to use a tub big enough to bathe in, so I never heard of it causing itching.
When I was doing gas leakage surveys in 1993 along the Pennsylvania/New York border, I found lots of people had poke in their flower beds around their houses as an ornamental plant. But in asking around, I never found anyone up there who had ever eaten any.
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Er.... we don't know how to post pictures. BUT.... we bought a digital camera! And one of these days we'll try to figure out how it works! I think the feature that i like best about that breakfast booth is the elevation. Way before we cut the first piece of material I had in mind to jack up the booth so I could slide in and out easier and so when i was sitting there I could more easily see what was going on both in the kitchen and in adjacent areas. We have a half-wall behind one bench of the booth that separates the kitchen from the dining room and beyond that the living room. One of our favorite mexican restaurants has the booths on six-inch risers and I have always like that setup.
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My dad encountered northern city folk who moved into the rural south and planted okra at his suggestion but ate the tender young leaves because they didn't know they were supposed to eat the pods. He said he felt a little funny having to tell them the part everyone else eats.
I took my wife to the emergency room after she ate a green salad made with raw poke salat. I was going to cook it and had it washed and waiting in the refrigerator. She didn't know any better. Now she does and avoids it in any form.
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I'm from the North. What is poke salat.
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Are you kidding, Egon, or do you really not know what it is. You can read a little bit about it here. Their recipe says they first boiled it one or two miniutes. We boiled it a bit longer the first time, but otherwise, that's the recipe we used, too; boil it, use a little bacon and maybe a bit of salt and pepper for seasonint. Personally, with almost any of the greens, poke, spinach, turnip, etc., I like to add about a teaspoon of vinegar to a helping of greens on my plate. Plain vinegar will do, if that's all you have, but I prefer the juice from the pickles and like either sweet or dill.
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OK, Egon, I just know you are just baiting me but... Google aside...
Poke salat (not salad) phytolacca americana is a wild vegetable, a leafy green like Kohlrabi or mustard, turnip or spinich.
The tender young leaves are best. Young poke without any hint of purple makes an excellent dish of greens similar to spinach. It is best collected early in the spring when plants are young and growing fast (no purple.) Don't cut the stems too close to the root and avoid the root. It must be parboiled and then drained well and rinsed at least once (more for more mature greens.)
Then there are lots of ways to finish it off. A good one is to put it in a skillet and fry in butter or bacon drippings. It's a meal fit for a king. Just boiling another time and eating the greens like spinach is OK too.
Health conscious eaters may want to use nonfat pepper jack cheese (comes in individually wrapped slices) and layer cheese and greens alternately using well drained cooked greens. A blast in the microwave to melt the cheese and shazam, poke greens in spicy cheese sauce. Tasty but lo cal and no trans fats no saturated fats just good eating side dish.
I do not know the northern range of the plant grown outside. I do not cultivate it but gather it wild. It seems to prefer soil around the margins of a brush pile and doesn't grow wild just anywhere.
Some folks grow it as an ornamental as it is nice looking and has pretty berries. Folks use the berries for jam and some make wine and the root is used in folk medicine but if you don't know what you are doing or have a reliable recipe I wouldn't experiment.
My parents and grand parents just used it as greens.
Oh, and by the way, Egon... don't you recall the popular song about Poke Salat Annie who gathered up her mess of greens in a tote sack?
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Poke salat (not salad)
Yeah, but since salat is German for salad and some of us old country boys never learned German, we just called it poke salad.
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Don't cut the stems too close to the root
We never did any cutting at all; just pinched the leaves off at the base of each leaf.
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It seems to prefer soil around the margins of a brush pile
And around old barns for some reason.
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Folks use the berries for jam and some make wine and the root is used in folk medicine
Now that's news to me. I never heard of anyone using the berries or the roots for anything. As a kid, we were told they were poisonous, but in later life, I've read that birds eat the berries.
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Bird, Yes indeed, birds eat the berries, encapsulate the seeds in little fertilizer packets and dispense them far and wide which spreads the poke salat all over but it grows best in certain soil conditions. I never looked into the ph or any thing that promotes good poke, just take it where I find it and I have some very productive brush piles that are little poke gardens mixed with blackberries.
A PhD biologist buddy of mine says that over time the brush pile's beneficial effect on poke will fade as whatever the particular circumstances are that favors poke are transitory and will not last forever. His comment is based on his personal observation over the years as he is a woodsy type and spends time gathering natural foods and fishing.
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No, I didnt Google before asking Pat.
It does not grow up here.
I'm starting to think this forum consists of hungry people always interested in food and cooking!!
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Re: Where did you splurge?
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01/29/08 02:09 PM
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I have never heard of it Bird and really do not think it grows up here.
Eating wise the closest I've come to it would be Kale mixed with bacon.
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Re: Where did you splurge?
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01/29/08 03:22 PM
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love food! I always thought "poke" was toxic though. Now I can't wait till summer to give it a try. However, not sure the wife will allow me to apply it to her sore breasts. This is what I found with google: Poke is well know among country folk in the south as a tasty cooked green. The sallet term in one of the common names is an old term for cooked greens. Tender young shoots are gathered and boiled twice discarding the first water to rid the leaves of any possible poison. Seasoned with salt and bacon drippings it is a popular dish in the rural south. The root, older leaves and possibly the berries can be toxic. Native Americans introduced this plant to European settlers and it was so popular as a potherb that seeds soon were being cultivated back in Europe.
Medical Uses: Various parts of the plant have been used since pre-Colombian times to treat many conditions. It seems the berry juice has been used for pimples and boils, in some cases taken internally in other cases applied to the skin. It has also been taken for joint pain and applied to sore breasts. Leaf concoctions have been used as an expectorant, emetic and cathartic. Warning: All parts of the plant may contain some toxins and Foster & Duke warn that the juice can cause dermatitis and damage chromosomes.
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Re: Where did you splurge?
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01/29/08 08:52 PM
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Is THAT what the guy was singing about in the song about the POKE SALLY? I never could figure out what he was a-singin' about, and have absolutley no idea wut a poke salty is. Must be some wierd kind of thing from da deep south? In California we ate oranges, mostly.
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Re: Where did you splurge?
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01/30/08 10:34 AM
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All people are or can easily become hungry.
Live to eat or eat to live, whichever suits you.
Essen oder fressen, there is a difference.
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Re: Where did you splurge?
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01/30/08 11:26 AM
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Ach ya. Aber die das fressen leben nich ser gut.
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Re: Where did you splurge?
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01/30/08 04:32 PM
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I'm glad you-all re-found this thread, it has sure gone in a few different directions. I's good to hear what everyone did what's "special" to their homes.
I can say, Pat, that I was a long-time reader and reviewer of your Oklahoma farmhouse series. Many great ideas and innovations there. I did like what you said about your shower, so I did somewhat similar, with it ending up around 4' X 7', no door, no curb, just slope, and a standard showerhead as well as the new rain tile from Kohler, which I do love. And you are sooooo right about how nice it is to step from the bedroom (with a warm floor) into a bathroom with a warm floor, into a warm shower, and out. I didn't do the tubing-in-the-walls part and haven't noticed any issues with coolness.
I did order a couple of wall niches for the shower as well as for the tub area upstairs. They had to be inserted in the walls, taped and then compounded over, before being tiled - with 2 openings in them for a shampoo bottle and for soap. These were internet purchases - no such thing in stores up here.
Top 8 best things I did, though, in no particular order :
1. I had the whole house wired for internet, sound, and satellite. The main can for it all is in the basement, with feeds everywhere - it's great.
2. Bought a set of dimmer switches (made by Lutron), called AURORA. These dimmers (they come as a set of 5, but you can add more) are connected to a main control panel that you can plug in anywhere in the house (mine is on a night table beside the bed), so you can leave all the lights in the house on, that are controlled by these dimmers, then hit a "Master Off" button to turn them all off after you get to bed. They also come with a remote control device like a garage door opener that you can hit when you drive up to your house at night, and turn them all on to either full brightness or to the level you had pre-set them to. Or of course the reverse, turn all the lights off or down after you get out to your car if you go out after dark. I LOVE this set-up and use it all the time. Plus, for filling out a survey after installing it, they sent me a second remote device and extended the warranty from 1 to 2 years - not bad. I bought this setup off e-Bay for about $400 - they retail up here for $750.
3. Had the wiring panel wired with a transfer switch for an emergency generator, which can plug in out at the garage, and also added a single whole-house surge protector. The main power feed come from the street to a pole, then down the pole and underground into the garage to a 200-amp panel, then feed underground to the house, with another 200-amp panel plus the transfer switch panel.
4. Had a remote furnace turn-on device added - it works by telephone. Until I retire, and since I live an hour and a half away in the city where I work (Halifax), I keep the radiant floor heat down around 11-12 degrees C - maybe 45-50 F through the week. It takes a few hours to warm up if I wait until I get there after work on Fridays for the weekend. So now I can phone my house mid-day Friday and turn the heat up so this way, it's warm when I get there. So far, a good idea!
5. Sounds a bit cheesy, but I put twin round stainless sinks in the kitchen. They are really unique, look great, are functional, and nobody who comes in has ever seen them anywhere else. They were in the display area at the kitchen place I used, and I liked them right away. And they were LESS expensive than the sink I had originally planned on!
6. I chose hickory engineered hardwood floors for almost the whole the main floor - kitchen, LR, DR, BR, closets. All but for the tile in the entry way, hallway and bathroom. The hickory was glued down because of the cement floor for the radiant heating system, and it too looks GREAT. The maple kitchen cabinets complement the hickory nicely.
7. I wasn't afraid to use some color on the interior walls. Blue walls in the kitchen-living room-dining room, white trim, and a reallllly light blue on the ceiling. The ceiling part had me a bit scared after it went on first, it looked REALLY blue, but when the walls were painted the darker blue, the ceilings look almost white. The master bedroom I made pumpkin with a light tan ceiling. Upstairs - a pale yellow bedroom, a sage green bedroom, and the bathroom is split with both those colors in it.
8. I had ceiling fans put in the master bedroom, and in the screen porch. No need in the winter, but they'll be useful on some of the warmer summer days. We don't get a lot of really hot weather in the summer, and I'm on the water, so central AC is not really common up here, nor really needed. I may get a little unit for the bedroom for the few nights in the summer it gets too hot to sleep. Or I could sleep in the basement!! (as yet unfinished).
I hope some of these ideas help you too, TroyBilt . This board was a great source of ideas to me before, but I did what you said too - add inn details in every room that are yours, unique and not necessarily expensive, that make it a special home.
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Re: Where did you splurge?
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01/31/08 11:31 AM
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NSBound, I was counting tile just yesterday in the shower and it is just a little under 4x8 feet. Looks to have been 4x8 as rough stud walls.
The heated floor in the shower is at least half of the luxury and the heated walls supply more but not enough to be a big deal BUT if I had it to do over I would heat all the way up the walls and do the ceiling too.
The shower is larger than it has to be but I wouldn't want to lose much length as water might splash outside. It doesn't splash out at all now.
Your lights and remote t'stat control sound neat, especially since you are still away a lot during the day.
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HaHa, Pat, you mentioned counting tile. My tile guy was counting tile too - I think this job drove him cross-eyed. He was beefing that these were not meant to be used as wall tiles as well as floor tiles, so they took him a fair bit of time and work to get them "more-or-less" straight and even. They look good, though, plus I had him put a trim row around the doorway to the shower entrance.
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Re: Where did you splurge?
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02/01/08 09:20 AM
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We did our shower floor in 4x4 inch tile closely matched in color (but totally different manufacturer) to the 12x12 inch Wilie on the walls and ceiling. Our door is a bit wider (for good cause )
We have a horizontal trim stripe about 5 ft above the floor and some colored pictures of fish every so often in case you want to look for Nemo.
I counted tile as since I was in my birthday suit in the shower and I didn't have a pocket for a tape measure.
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I took a picture of the bath entry. Here are the salient features:
1. no door or curtain 2. towel warmer to left of entry 3. missing baseboard and holes in wall (a little plumbing gliitch, fixed but baseboard not replaced yet.) 4. triangular seat in shower with sloping front so you can get your feet under your center of gravity to make it easy to stand up without using your hands. 5. thermostat (little white rectangle on left of entry) 6. humidistat (little white rectangle on right of entry, controls the ERV) 7. Bi-fold steel storm shutter (one of a pair, bath is included inside the safe room which is all of the master suite minus the sitting room. walls are 8 inches of steel reinforced concrete) Decorative cloth covers for the bi-fold doors are in the works but not bubbled to the top of the heap yet.
The thermostat controls the temperature of a sensor buried in the thinset of the tile shower wall. It is quite programmable as to various temps at various times as well as being a clock.
The humidistat senses the relative humidity next to the shower entry and controls the speed of the ERV. It has an adjustment knob and off/on switch. If the RH goes above the set point of this humidistat it puts the ERV in high speed and another humidistat we put in the exhaust duct going from the shower ceiling to the ERV, when triggered by excessive RH, will kick on a booster fan and really suck moist air out of the shower and the bathroom. You can hear the booster fan but it is quieter than the typical bathroom exhaust fan. We go sometimes weeks at a time without the booster coming on. When the ERV is in slow mode (we run it 24-7) it is virtually impossible to hear even with your ear cocked to the exhaust register. When it goes into high speed you can just barely hear it if you are standing next to an exhaust vent (there are 3 in the bathroom and one in the walk in closet.
There is no traditional type noisy exhaust fan in the bathroom. With continuous ventilation via the ERV the bathroom is always being exhausted and the removed air comes from the master bedroom. The incoming air to replace the exhausted air comes into the great room and is distributed around the house.
The master bath and walk-in closet have no air delivery registers so no A/C or heated air and no hydronics in the WIC. The air being continuously exhausted from the WIC pulls conditioined air through that space and since it is super insulated (5 inches of styrofoam) it never get all that much cooler or hotter than the master bedroom from which it gets its conditioned air.
The ERV takes less than an amp unless the master bath humidity tells it to run faster which is only when there is considerable showering or Jacuzzi use.
The bathroom color scheme is green for the sea, blue for the sky, and white for clouds. I let my wife pick. I just blended the paint and helped paint it.
Pat
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