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One of my longest lasting hobbies has been trains. I got involved with them as a kid, because my stepfather was a big train fan. We used to go to all the train shows, and even made the trip to Steam Town once when I was young. I am into almost every aspect of them. Models, the real thing, history. I am even building my house within site of the tracks, and have an old abandoned line across the street. I have posted a picture shot from what will be my side yard. Any one else into trains?
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Just wish there were more passenger trains instead of those awfull monstrocities called freeways. Travelling by train is the most enjoyable way to go in my estimation. Of course there may be times when one would have to transfer to a ocean going vessel.
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I'm not, myself, but have had past friends who were into trains. Some of them actually had old cars collected on their property. Have you got that far yet??
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Have you got that far yet??
Nope, not yet. But if the right deal came across................
I am giving some thought to a 7 1/4 gage ride on train on the land. But hay, I'm a little strange sometimes. [sometimes????? ]
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I like 'em, watching and listening. Been to shows, had a HO set when I was a kid, but not an intense fan.
But I live about a mile away from a main line that has about two or three freights an hour during the day. It is maddening to be able to hear them but not to see them! Wish I could install some kind of 'train-cam' so I could watch them on the computer when I hear them coming.
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depends on what you mean by "train people". Steam? Yep! Always try to tailor my trips and vacations around steam train museums (or working "museums". See my "steam train" thread on TBN. One of these days, I'll find the time to get back to my modelling .... have several HO and N scale sets boxed up waiting for new dioramas to be built .... gotta finish up the shop first, though.
it's a shame that common sense isn't
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yeap. 1 1/2" live steam is my hobby. I enjoy sitting on my hobby. 
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What, no pictures?
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Hey! Aren't you supposed to be working?
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Looks like everyone else is into the bigger stuff. I had an HO layout (the Amnicon & Brule - named after 2 rivers in Northern Wisconsin) for quite awhile before it was "sacrificed" for the betterment of the family - we needed a new family room don't you know!
Anyway, it was going to be an L shaped layout about 12' on one leg and 8' on the other. I had the basic track layout down on the 8' section and even had some landscaping finished when the remodeling fairy showed up! Haven't had the room to start another one. The wife thinks I want to build a new house in the country to get out in the country. True, but the other real reason is to have room to re-start the layout in the room adjacent to where I'll store my tractor!
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Nope your not the only one. I am into HO, I have some G stuff that I am planing to build a garden railroad with.
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I work for a railroad and let me tell you freight railroads are the most cost efficient and environmentally friendly form of transportation we have here in the US. It's too bad that our government subsidizes every other form of transportation except railroads!
P.S. I've got a friend with a 1942 Pullman in his back-yard .... kind of a crazy hobby huh?
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We took a den of Cub Scouts on a train adventure yesterday. We have a Live Steamer Assoc nearby. They had thier fall meet this last weekend. They had electric, gas, and full steam trains running. There's some pictures of last meet on this web page. I heard they had over 40 trains running on Saturday.
www.svls.org/
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P.S. I've got a friend with a 1942 Pullman in his back-yard .... kind of a crazy hobby huh? heck no ... actually common .... I started negotiations on my caboose with the CNR in Alberta but it was short-circuited by my transfer to Michigan. I'm still interested .... I'd love to move my computer room and library into a caboose! And a freight car to build my HO/N layouts in (and maybe a G under) ...
it's a shame that common sense isn't
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I'm with you, an office in an old Caboose would be the best!
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I have been thinking of building a shed to look like a caboose. Only thing holding me back now, is I want it to look real. So I am figuring out plans in my head to do it right.
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S1120 this is a long way from your neck of the woods but you maybe interested http://www.flindersrangescouncil.sa.gov.au/tourism/Quorn/index.html
I worked in the railways not that far from Ouorn at a place called peterborough during the 70s. My father was manager of the raliways for this whole area for many years and my brother is still involved in the railways in the area as a cival engineer. Peterborough was, i think the ony place in the world that had 3 Gauges meeting 3' 6' -- 4'8.5"-- 5' 3.25"
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Have a look at this.
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Cool! I like all that shelding on the front.
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I've been to the Ford Museum and seen their trains. I have been to the Railroad Museum south of San Diego and took a ride on their restored train out on the real tracks, cross country along the Mexican border.
As a lad I always liked the steam locomotives and enjoyed the returned waves from the engineer's firemen, and the brakeman in the caboose. Rare to see a caboose these days ond waves are hard to come by from many of the diesel electrics. A bygone era. I had a Marx brand wind up train and a Lionel electric. I used to sit under the table the Lionel was set up on so it sounded more realistic. Never had the fancy milk bucket loading accessories or a station but had an operating airfrcaft beacon and a railroad crossing that came down as the train passed.
Whoo whoooooo!
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trains Warthers Train carvings Cass Rairoad West Virginia http://www.cassrailroad.com/
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The only "train" museum I ran across in my travels was in Pennsylvania, if I remember right (and now I don't remember the town even). I had an uncle who died of a sudden, unexpected heart attack in 1943 (I was 3 years old), and I eventually inherited his gold Hamilton watch, his wallet with some interesting documents such as employee pay scales, etc. and I've thought of trying to sell, donate, or loan them to a railroad museum if I ever find one I'd want to have them. My uncle's title was "Chief Clerk to the Superintendent for All Lines; Baltimore and Ohio Railroad". He lived, and is buried, in Baltimore.
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Whoo whoooooo!
I think that says it all, Pat. Something about a train, and I don't know what that is, that brings us back to childhood.
My story starts with my stepfather. He was a big train fan, and a collector of old toy trains. My love of trains came early. I can remember my visit to Steam town, in the early 70's when I was a kid. Hoping the crossing gates are down, wile driving down that side street, And just watching any train that happands to be around.
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Bird, Yet another point of commonality. I recall the B&O from my time in Lima. THere was a Lima Baldwin Hamilton Locomotive works whose name says it all.
Unfortunately timing hasn't matched interest and I have only made two train trips and just one of those that I recall, the one on the Mexican border at the RR museum south of san Diego. My first train trip was in the later days of WW II when my mom was "smuggled on board" by some soldiers. It seems that seat access was prioritized, men in uniform first and the conductors were screening everyone, having a ticket wasn't enough.
A group of soldiers noticed my mom standing there with a todler at her side and a babe in arms (me) and said come on lady you're my buddy's wife. I'm told that I spent the best part of the trip being held by various soldiers and sleeping in their laps to give my mom a break and some time for my sister. She said a couple of them were down in the isle on there hands and knees helping me play with a wind up car. My mom says she thinks I was a symbol standing for all their kids, little brothers, and what they were on their way to fight for.
Too bad I can't remember it because it was a steam locomotive (I love 'em) and the museum ride was just a diesel electric. I hope to have time for some train rides after this house is finished.
There is a steam engine in operation out at Glacier National Park and I hope to ride that one day.
Oh by the way, I had an uncle in Mississippi who worked for the RR for decades but I wasn't in line for his RR watch. About RR watches... My dad told me that he had once asked a conductor if the train would be on time and the conductor pulled out his watch, cocked his head to listen to the trains progress from rail section to rail section and said they'd probably be a bit early as they were making real good speed. Seems they knew how many rail sections/min equated to what speed.
Board.... ALL A_B_O_A_R_D!
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Paul, If steam locomotives were not enough, when my dad was a lad, some of the local farmers had steam tractors that had external pulley wheels to drive wide leather belts (primitive PTO) to operate threshers and such while the tractors were standing still. And yes, I'm told, they had steam whistles!
Hmmm, I wonder what it would take to retrofit my Kubota...
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In reply to:
Yet another point of commonality
So much so as to be almost spooky. 
My Dad, an Oklahoma farm boy, took a job with the Social Security Administration in the early '40s. And my mother has told lots of stories of riding the trains back and forth from Ardmore and Oklahoma City to Baltimore (had to change in Chicago). Dad went up first, got an apartment, then Mother followed with me when I was just a baby. Then she and I went back to Oklahoma later where my first sister was born, and then back to Baltimore when I was almost two years old and my sister was a baby. Mother (whom we're getting ready to go visit in the nursing home for her 82nd birthday party today) says people used to ask if it wasn't awfully hard trips with babies and she says it was actually very easy trips because the trains were always full of soldiers who played with and entertained the babies all the way.
But the only train trip I can remember was in '65 when my wife and I had only been married about 6 months. We drove a car from Dallas to Denver for her aunt and uncle, then rode the train back to Dallas (about a 24 hour trip).
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Pat : There is a Steam Locomotive operating out of Stettler, Alberta that does about a 100 or so kilometer round trip with passenger cars and tourists during summer mounths.
I beleive there is also one that makes a trip through the Rockies with overnight hotel stops for the passenger.
Trains and the Alaska Marine Highway would be my two choices for quality travel.
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I'm starting a grand scale railroad in East Michigan if anyone wants to join in.
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I got a freight line at the bottom of our hill; goes by about twice a day moving slurry from the local talc mine.
I have about $100 in crushed quarters, dimes, nickels and pennies to my collection.
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Love trains. I don't know exactly what the appeal is, but they've always been interesting and fun for me.
There is a great railroad museum in Old Town Sacramento here in California. I like to make sure I go there at least once a year. They also usually run a steam engine and some old cars a few miles up and down the tracks - pretty fun.
My mom lives about a six hour drive south of me, which is a really dismal drive. We took the train down for our last visit and it was great, especially for my daughter (who could draw and play instead of being stuck in a car seat).
One of these days I'll build another model railroad. They're a lot of fun, too...
Thanks for the post! Gives me another thing to add to my really short list of things to do ....Chris
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Chris, I can understand the origins of our deap seated feelings for siting around a fire and the pleasure of eating meat cooked over an open fire, these have been bred into the human race over many thousands of years. Trains...?? Trains haven't been around long enough to have been implanted in out psyche through Darwinian processes so the only reasonable explanation for their magical attraction (especially steam trains) is... well... MAGIC.
It defies logic and common sense and likely isn't trully a religious issue so what is left? MAGIC!
I used to sit on the floor of my attic bedroom, under the old table where my Lionel electric train was set up to listen to it run the rails and go clickity clack because it sounded more real.
The last train layout I saw (not counting the Peter Ustinov and Shirley McClain(SP?) comedy about Wrong Way Goldfarb, a funny rerun from the 60's) was in the atic of our Coast Guard Aux Flotilla Chaplain. He had a nice home overlooking the Pacific with a trully spectacular view from his expansive windows but liked to take visitors up a vertical ladder into the no-standing-headroom attic where he had a really large and elaborate train layout.
Mountains, deserts, villages, factories, ranches, farms...in good detail and scale down to the silk scarf around the neck of the driver of an open touring car waiting to cross the rails when the gate went up. He had the milk can loading accessory, the mail bag and mail hook that transferred mail to the train while on the move, stock yard accessory with little moving cattle that went to a cattle car, and on and on and on. It was the best private diorama and train layout I ever had seen before or since. If you took a catalog of available accessories for Lionel and Marx trains, I think there was probably one of everything up there plus stuff I had never seen in caalogs. He had built a roundhouse, drawbridge, had a lumber mill with a crane to handle logs. About the only thing I didn't see represented was kids throwing rocks, picked up from the right of way, at the passing box cars. (It gave a great illusion of the path of the rock curving laterally) It was a few years back but it makes me feel good just to remember it. (The train layout not throwing rocks) And in closing (yes, it is nearly over..) this poem from my earlier slightly more poetic period.
Clickety clack, clickety clack, Hear the train go down the track, As it passes we all know, It has no duty but to go, On its way from town to town, Making that goshawful sound! Clickety clack, clickety clack Clickety clack.
OK, OK, it isn't a sonnet and it isn't in Iambic pentameter...I was young.
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The funny thing Pat, is that if you tell someone that you are into model railroads, they think you are strang. But when they see your trains, and what you have built, They love it, and can't belive how you could do it. I have started a few people in the hobby just by bringing some trains in to work. Firs they chuckle at you, then a few weeks later, they are telling you they picked up a train set. Got to love it.
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Paul, Without getting too far out into psychology, I'll just say that there is what people enjoy, and there is what TV and other influences condition people to think that they should enjoy. The latter buillds up a certain veneer of reisitance to the former but once that thin veneer is broached by reality, the majority of folks will go with the reality of the situation, usually.
I have been amused, at times, by the perceptions of what is MANLY until the "joy circuits" overload and preconceived perceptions are forgoten. More is the pity of folks who refuse to participate in or do what they know they like because it isn't what they thought they "should" like.
On a parallel note: I have administered blind taste tests of white meat turkey vs dark meat turkey with interesting results. Confirmed white meat folks often repeatedly choose the dark in a blind test, claiming it to be the white meat because it tastes better. When shown the "REALITY" of what they have selected, they remain unconvinced and proceed to eat ONLY the white meat when they can see to choose. Similar situations abound, pointing out curious foibles in other areas of human activity and choice.
Oh,by the way, I got my first taste of train sets as a wind up train and then got the real thing for Christmas at age 6, a Lionel steam locomotive with a working headlight and a heater in the stack that when armed with "smoke pills" would puff out smoke as it ran along. It had a really good sounding whistle which with a bit of practice you could make sound truly authentic. After a while my dad let me play with it.
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Re: Any train people?
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In other words, Pat, to each his own? I'll go along with that. I guess someday I should make some pictures of my eldest daughter's home. Her husband is a train nut. So far the tracks only take up one room of the house, but other train stuff is in every room. And I think the only reason he ever got Internet access was to look at stuff about model trains.
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Re: Any train people?
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04/03/03 09:52 AM
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Where at in Michigan? I'm in Ypsilanti, but am building a house this year so I don't know how much free time I will have.
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Re: Any train people?
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I'm a few miles north of Lapeer and looking for members. 4" to the foot scale 16" gage. But I'm open to other options.
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Re: Any train people?
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So what happened to all the train people?? Still looking for club members!!! mikell
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Re: Any train people?
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I would love to Mike, but your a little far from me.
I am still thinking of a 7 1/4 guage rail line at the house, but for now its just a thought, and a dream. got to get into the house first.
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well I'm interested ... and you're not THAT far away ... but where am I supposed to find the TIME??? Between the mini's, the time spent on the Bike Club website (and meetings), the time spent tying to keep my APICS chapter alive, the time spent on the local woodworkers club board ... and all the overtime ... I don't hardly have time to turn around or even change my mind. Heck ... my whole HO & N scale setup is still all boxed and stored from my move from Alberta .... 5 years ago!
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Almost two years ago we moved to the Midwest and into a house that had been occupied for about five years by a couple with two teen daughters. PRIOR TO THAT it was home to a historic area family and much of their stuff was still in the basement and attic. We did a big clean-out and recovered some nice antiques, but also burned a lot of old stuff. I just COULD NOT get myself to toss out a train set that the kids had. It was the typical 1950's electric train with good sized track and a transformer for power. It's still in a box in the basement. Speaking of trains.....I can STILL remember getting stuff off the train! I recall my dad backing our '36 Dodge pickup close to a box car and off-loading our very first electric welder in about 1947; and also seeing him back that same pickup up the ramp, onto a flatcar, and pull off a brand new FOX hay chopper. I can also remember seeing the train guys with their oil can that had a looooong stem on it oiling the engine as they sat in the station while passengers got on and off. I grew up across the road from the tracks....originally narrow guage... of the Sierra Railroad which was headquartered in Jamestown CA, and was the railroad of choice for so many movies and also the "Petticoat Junction" TV series.
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S W E E T !!! Great site.
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On the South end of my place we stand on a rare curved wooden bridge and look down to watch the BNSF trains pass. With over 100 per day going from Chicago to LA it is not a long wait.
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Re: Any train people?
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Good to see this thread still alive . We live pretty close to Sacramento, CA, which is the home to a really nice railroad museum. On Sunday we went down to "Old Sac" for a family day trip and rode the old steam train on the excursion ride that they do (about a 45 minute trip along the river).
Aside from listening to a group that was really unhappy about how hot it was it was a great time. And the folks that run the train (all volunteers) were talking about wanting to extend the line a few miles...but they need help laying ties, gravel, and track. It would be a pretty good workout - if it didn't kill me . I'm thinking about doing it in my "spare time" .
If you ever do happen to be in Sacramento (and are reading this thread) then I highly recommend the railroad museum here (web page) . It is a really cool place.
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