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Last week my Daughter had me out to her place to cut down some unwanted trees. They were mainly grey birch that were leaning towards the house and one poplar tree that was alongside the power line.
For the poplar I attched a rope to help it fall the right way which it did.
The picture is of an old man up the tree! 
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Re: Up a tree
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11/25/07 09:21 PM
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Good on you for wearing the Husky chain say helmet with earl eye, head, and neck protection. I can't tell in the picture if you have the chaps.
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Re: Up a tree
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11/26/07 05:44 AM
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No chaps as they are too clumsy to wear when climbing.
I do have the proper set of pants though they are getting a little worn and ragged looking.
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Re: Up a tree
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11/26/07 08:05 AM
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I don't need seatbelts, I'm only going to the store.
Is the wear and tear on the leg protectiin due to age, and use in brush and wading though limbs ir has there been contact with a moving chain loop?
I have never worn chaps and never hurt myself. I did put a couple gashes in my jeans pant leg last time out but missed the flesh. The new-in-the-box and unused Husky chaps WILL BE USED next time!!!
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Re: Up a tree
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11/26/07 10:38 AM
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The wear and tear is on the back parts, the leg bottoms and the pockets.
The chain has never made contact.
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Re: Up a tree
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11/26/07 10:53 AM
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Egon said, "The chain has never made contact. "
OK troop!!!! lets keep it that way!
Nothing like severing your femoral artery to spoil a day in the woods.
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Re: Up a tree
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11/26/07 12:11 PM
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"Nothing like severing your femoral artery to spoil a day in the woods."
Pat, I hear you loud and clear. I've been doing a lot of tree/brush clearing the last couple of years off and on, much of it by myself with the nearest house 500-600 ft away. Always make sure I've got a belt on my pants that I could use as a tourniquet.
Using power tools by myself (especially a chainsaw) makes me extra cautious. Year ago, BIL gave me a set of chainsaw pants that an idling saw ripped into first time I used them while I was walking through the brush. Don't know if it was a false sense of security or not After that, the fact they were ripped up, bulky and uncomfortable made me put them in the basement and stick with my blue jeans. However, I also don't walk anymore with a running saw unless it's just a few feet in open terrain or if I'm trimming a fallen tree. My Poulan Pro starts so easy that I just shut it off and start it up again when I'm ready to cut. I think the key is concentration. When you're not concetrating on cutting, (like looking for the next tree to cut) then I believe that's when accidents happen. I'm no expert, but that's when I think I'M vulnerable.
As for getting up in a tree like EGON, I'll leave that to the pros. I don't feel comfortable at all doing that. I get nervous if I'm on a short ladder with a saw. Luckily, all my tree cutting can be done from the ground as I've got no buildings to worry about (yet).
Yesterday, my wife helped me cut down about fifteen trees. She was doing the hauling over to the pile for the wood chipper while I cut. Having another person nearby also makes me more cautious. Several times she wandered over too close for my comfort and I stopped my cut or shut the saw down.
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Re: Up a tree
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11/26/07 02:52 PM
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I wasn't up the tree cutting. I was up there tying on a rope. The chain saw is too heavy for me handle up a tree. Husky 365.
When I do cut in a tree I use a light electric with a 9 inch bar.
Many years ago I saw a young fellow with his upper leg gashed open from a chain saw. It was 100 miles to the neaest hospital on what was really a trail but some called a road. 
I almost always wear the pants. That is why they are so beat up.
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Re: Up a tree
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11/26/07 05:43 PM
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JML, You sound like a fairly conscientious citizen. Hope you don't live (or your wife doesn't) live to regret your decision to not use chaps. Sure there are oodles of folks who have worked for years with chain saws and never been hurt (I'm one) but if you keep on crossing the street without looking you may become freeway pizza.
I have gone up 24 ft extension ladders and then climbed limb to limb carrying a 16 inch Mac and disassembled the top 50 ft of a tree before and got away with it a few times. I have been trying to cut back on dumb things and going very high in trees (limb to limb) with a chain saw is one of the things I'm elliminating from my repertoire. With a ladder, I can stay safe. I use a safety belt and never climb up or down with a running saw. In some situations I leave the saw on the ground while climbing and hoist it up with a lanyard.
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Re: Up a tree
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11/27/07 07:51 AM
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Pat,
One of the reasons I'm not wearing the chaps anymore is that they're ripped and I'm not thrilled about the $70-$90 to replace them. I know, I know, a serious injury is worth a lot more than $90, so don't flame me too much. Someone at work said you can repair them. The question in my mind is "how", so they're still effective. I did some work for a company that made auto convertible tops and I've got a bunch of scrap pieces of top material. Fairly tough stuff. I thougth about just duct taping a patch around the leg. Any thoughts/comments or experience with repairing them. I can't imagine loggers throw them out every time they get ripped.
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Re: Up a tree
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11/27/07 05:24 PM
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Many loggers don't wear all the safety gear they should and chaps are often not used.
I would probably repair them. The way they work is the fill material clogs the chain loop and stops it. I'd be looking for a replacement material to put in there and cover with a patch to restore the original performance.
No flames from me. I'm the bozo with a new set of unworn chaps (but I promise I will be wearing them from now on after cutting two slices across my jeans leg.) Just lucky I didn't really get a bad injury. Not going to tempt fate. I SHALL use the chaps.
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Re: Up a tree
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12/19/07 08:32 AM
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Took a look last nite at the chainsaw pants that I cut. Cut is about 2" long and less than 1/4" away from a horizontal stitched seam (where the ends of the fibres were sewn in place). Cut through top layer of mesh and didn't pull too much material. (I suspect it was because it was so close to the the seam). More of a nick, so I'm definitely in "repair" mode. I've been looking for some material that I can shove in there before I patch the outer shell, but can't seem to find any on the net. Anyone have a source for the material for repairs for future reference?
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Re: Up a tree
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12/19/07 03:06 PM
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Liberate a bullet proof vest and use the material they contain.
Seriously, don't muck around, go but a new pair as the present ones have served you well!
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Re: Up a tree
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12/20/07 07:08 AM
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Egon's advice may, at first, seem extravagant but then you will have repair materials and can patch the new by cannibalizing the old if and when you ever need it.
I wish I could tell you what to use or where to get it or if tough upholstery material would work for a satisfactory patch but I can't. I know the theory is that the fibers jam the chain stopping the saw. I'd be concerned that convertible top material, although really strong and weather resistant might cut neatly and not jam the chain.
I have seen alternative protective gear. The body armor that baseball catchers wear on their legs has been worn for chainsaw protection. I haven't seen any performance tests, on purpose or accidental, but it would sure be better than not having protective gear and it is available for less than the Husky brand chaps.
I'm not recommending their substitution for the REAL THING, just passing along an observation and encourage yo to not take them internally but to be sure to wear ANSI approved safety glasses.
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Re: Up a tree
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Talked to my BIL over the holidays. He is getting me another set of pants. By the way, got my wife a Stihl safety helmet (with ear muffs/ face shield) for Christmas. She opened it and I anticipated a huge smile, "Thank you dear", etc. Daughters' jaws dropped, wife's smile disappeared and she said "this is by far the dumbest thing you have ever bought me for Christmas". Luckily, I also got her some dumb (my opinion) wool pants and a dumb (again, my opinion) cashmere sweater as well. I almost bought her a Stihl 20" MS260 chainsaw instead of the clothes. I can't imagine what Christmas day would have been like if I had done that. 
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Re: Up a tree
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Ah "She who commands" is a curious creature. No man will ever understand the workings of it's mind.
There are some here who claim otherwise but everyone knows different ehhh ????? He's so well programed he doesn't even know he's not making any decisions!
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Re: Up a tree
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jml, You are either a very brave man or a very naive one.
My wife and I have matching Husqvarna safety helmets with flip up/down wire mesh face guard, fold up/down snap in/out ear protection and a plastic French Foreign Legion back of the neck flap to keep chips and dust from getting down the back of your neck.
My wife doesn't chain saw gut does help feed the chipper and it does "belch" chunks back out every so often as well as being noisy.
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Re: Up a tree
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Pat,
that's why I got my wife the helmet. She is usually on the chipper just like your wife and I figured it would be appreciated. I think we now agree on our tastes in gifts: Hard, heavy, practical, metal, greasy, clanky: ok for me. Soft, delicate, elegant, clothing, ok for wife. After 34 yrs of marriage, I'm still getting educated.
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Re: Up a tree
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jml, Ahh, so you're newly weds... I'm over 40yrs into this first and hopefully last marriage. Of course I started out young. In fact, I had to get a note from my mom to get married. My fianc馥 bought the lisc. It seemed like such a good idea to everyone else I thought what the heck. Been at it over 40 years and so far so good, but we'll see.
I even married someone whose birthday was close to Christmas so I could get one set of presents to cover both events. Over the years it has worked out to about the same. You can fool all of the wives some of the time but you can't fool any of them all the time.
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Re: Up a tree
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If you act like a nut while up a tree, squirrels will flock to you!
Sweety usually does the gutters so one year got her a gutter buster for the end of the hose, good thing there are 24 hr stores out there!!
No fun, change the rules!!!
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