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Jupiter ale for Chuck52
11/06/03 11:59 PM
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Here's one of my earlier extract recipes. It's kind fun, although a bit on the hoppy side. Might cut back the aromatics a little...
Jupiter Ale
6lbs light malt extract
1/4 lb Chocolate malt
1/2 lb Crystal malt
1-1/2 oz Northern brewer hops(Boil
2 oz Willamette hops(dry hop/aromatic
Irish moss if you like...
Steep the grain in hot water(2 gallons works good) for 30 minutes. Remove grains(grain bag is handy). Stir in extract, and bring to boil. Add boiling hops. Boil 60 minutes.
Cool wort. Rapid cooling wil drop the trub out...
Add cool wort to carboy, top with clean water. After fermentation slows, rack to secondary carboy. Mix aromatic hops with 1/2 cup bioling water. Let cool, and add to secondary. allow 1-2 weeks for secondary fermentation and time for dry hopping.
Bottle/keg. Wait 4 weeks, and enjoy.
Note I only made this once on the stove top. After that, I used a cut up keg over a propane cajun cooker burner. Then, I did full 5gal full gravity boils.
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Re: Jupiter ale for Chuck52
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11/07/03 01:37 PM
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Robert,
Thanks for the recipe. I don't think I'll find it too hoppy; my definition of a proper IPA is that it set your teeth on edge. I just bought a pound each of Challenger, Northern Brewer and Fuggles, because St. Pats was selling them off.
I expect to go to all grain sometime in the not too distant future. My brewing buddy and I will eventually prod each other into it. Just need to bite the bullet and collect the equipment. He already kegs, while I still bottle, though I at least use the swing top bottles. I think my first step in the all grain direction may be buying a stainless steel turkey cooker. I know the kettle will be pretty thin guage, but I think I may have some aluminum plate I could use to set it on and spread the heat. I saw one at WalMart with a spigot. How long do you usually have to boil to concentrate the wort in a normal run?
Chuck
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Re: Jupiter ale for Chuck52
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11/08/03 05:49 PM
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I moved from stovetop to a turkey/cajun/jet propane burner. The first burner was only about 35,000btu. The next was 125,000 or something like that.
I used a 15gal keg with the top cut out. I got a stainless lid from Walmart, just big enough to fit inside the topp of the keg handles. A few buddies were building full grain systems, so we had a bunch of kegs cut using plams torch. Cutting them at home with a drill and Sawzall is a bear...
Once I had this, I did full gravity boils. Worked great, and got hot and boiling much faster than even a low volume high gravity boil on the stovetop. To boot, it was about a third of the parts for my eventual three tier all grain system.
Here's some pictures...
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Re: Jupiter ale for Chuck52
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11/08/03 05:51 PM
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Keg without lid
Edited by robertn (11/08/03 05:51 PM)
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Try again... Keg photo from top
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Keg with Walmart lid, dusty, but...
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Keg on lower burner of three tier. I made the lower burner stand first, then built the rest of gravity feed system later
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Three tier gravity feed system. I use a ice chest with copper sprinlker manifolds inside for mashtun. System is on wheels. Overall height considered height of 6.5gal carboy, so after cooling I can fill direct from the boiling keg. Green container has most brewing things, like wort chiller ect.
Upper keg has valve for controlling flow to mashtun. It also has a thermometer about 1/2 way up the side.
I used my 35kbtu burner for boiling; the sweet wort is already pretty hot when it comes from the mashtun. I used the 125kbtu burner for heating water for mash and sparge.
The hokey sheet metal on the sides protects the flame on the burners, as a wind break. I usually set up in the garage to brew, but keep doors wide open to ventilate, given a couple big propane burners going.
The system is dusty, and unused for a while. I have been thinking about another brew session. I have kind of held off, since my beer fridge broke. I keg, and do not wat to bottle 10gal of beer while I have no keg fridge available 
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Re: Jupiter ale for Chuck52
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11/08/03 06:12 PM
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As you can see by my system, I collected as I went. I had the Sparge/mash water keg at the same time as the boiil, but did not get the whole system going till a brewing buddy prodded me.
Going full gravity boil, I tried a 5gal batch, and then a 10 gal extract batch. To cool all that, I had to have a chiller. I started kegging at that time too. 5gal is ok to bottle. 10gal is a real chore!
I usually run a 60 minute boil. Your wort should come out at the right concentration from the mashtun. That's why people Ph check the mash. If you under sparge, you don't get all the sweet stuff out. If you over sparge, you get astringent and watery at the end.
Usually, for an extract batch, I shoot for 11.5 gallons of sweet wort. A 60 minute rolling boil will run that down to 10gal. You don't want to boil much more than 60 minutes typically, as it will affect you hopping(too long a boil will overhop).
I shoot for the same with an all grain batch. Sometimes I come out wiith less, depending on how the sparge goes. A little work with the system, and tracking you pree-boil gravity and Ph will give you an idea how efficient your system is, and how you need to change the recipe to correct.
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Re: Jupiter ale for Chuck52
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01/05/04 06:37 PM
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good discussion here, tractors, land, country, beer, everything I love in one place, this must be heaven.
One word of advice if you are steeping or doing specialty graining. Watch your temperatures as the enzymes for converting the maltose are deactivated at 170. So while steeping or puting grain in your boil hold the temp at 155-160 during that time.
Love the brew 
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Re: Jupiter ale for Chuck52
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01/05/04 09:47 PM
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That is correct. I never got fancy with extract batches though. I just steeped the grains in hot water. Most extraction was for flavor; I did not expect any conversions.
I jumped from there to all grain. Temp is REAL important there 
Pass on a recipe; I need to get off my duff and brew
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Re: Jupiter ale for Chuck52
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01/06/04 05:09 PM
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would you like that full grain or extract?
I have a bunch, let me know.
I am lagering now as my shop is the correct temperature 
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Re: Jupiter ale for Chuck52
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01/06/04 06:50 PM
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If you guys need any official taste testers........  Dave
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Re: Jupiter ale for Chuck52
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01/06/04 11:15 PM
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How about a full-grain? I'll dig my recipes out and post another in a few days too.
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You know, it's funny you mentioned that! I have a bunch of friends that brew. We occasionally have brew tastes, where 8-10 people bring beers to taste. We have had anywhere from 12 or so brew to over 23 on occasion. We usaully make it an event, with dinner and all. We get everything from beginners to advanced brewers(one has since become a successful brew miester for a local micro brew, and two own a homebrew supply store).
We start with the lightest beers , and work our way to the stouts and barley wines. You only taste a bit, but after 15-20 tastes, wowsers!
It is a TON of fun. We have not done one in a while; maybe it's about time 
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Re: Jupiter ale for Chuck52
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01/07/04 05:44 AM
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I dont brew so I will have to bring the snacks. The thing Is I drink so little that one is about my limit, lol. But I do really enjoy a good beer. I think the whole micro brew thing is very cool. I have had some home made beers from others over the years that were excellent. I think I like the cream Porter. I used to have a very good Polish friend. His grandmother made cherry wine that was more like the best brandy I have ever had. Granny never had to ask twice for help around the farm from us ! Dave
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Re: Jupiter ale for Chuck52
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01/07/04 04:34 PM
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We have a club and we do this on a monthly basis. Hell of a lot of fun.
On teach a friend to brew day the club did 75 gallon batch. Just about ready to keg!
There was a heffi, a scotish ale and oat meal stout. We are gonna do a fish, elk, deer, pheasent and duck cook up and crack the kegs in 2 weeks, 
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Re: Jupiter ale for Chuck52
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01/07/04 06:19 PM
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For my wedding a few years back, we lined up three 10gal all-grain systems(just like mine; I built mine a couple years later). We did double batches on each. 1/2 of it went to the wedding reception. The rest was split with veryone in 5gal kegs.
It is really fun to do that. Sometimes it is not so exciting watching the water heat, the mashtun, ect... A bunch of buddies and stories though, thats fun!
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Re: Jupiter ale for Chuck52
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01/12/04 06:03 PM
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Do you use beer recipitator web site. Lots of good info.
I have the address on my home computer. If you do not have it let me know and i will forward.
Dane
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Re: Jupiter ale for Chuck52
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01/13/04 11:02 AM
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I am not aware of that site. I have not done much by way of brewing for a bit now. My keg fridge went out, and I have not replaced it. I bottled a 10gal batch once; not fun...
I need to get a batch going! I need some of my own brew, and need to exercise my memory and equipment.
Got anything that scales up to a 10gal recipe?
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Re: Jupiter ale for Chuck52
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01/14/04 09:54 AM
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You bet. It will be a week or so if you don't mind.
I will get the beer recipitator link for you.
Look at this one, its pretty good as well.
bodensatz
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