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gnawbone
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Pole Barn suggestions
09/18/03 09:23 PM
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I am looking for some advise from those of you that may have done something like this before.
My wife and I have our house for sale and after we sell it we are going to build on some property that we own. What we are considering doing is building a pole barn and "finishing" the inside (nothing fancy!). We would then live there until the house is built, move into the house, and have a pole barn and a house when it is all done. (I want the pole barn anyway).
We're thinking that the money we don't spend renting some place can go towards paying for the pole barn. This may also be where we're kidding ourselves! I realize a lot depends on how many months I don't rent compared to "over-building" the pole barn (bathroom, bare bones kitchen, etc).
Have any of you done anything like this, is it worth it, would you do it again, etc.
I'm thinking of something in the area of a 24x40 with 2 BR, 1 Bathroom, kitchen, and living room. Also, how would you heat it ?
Go easy! I realize this may be a bad idea! 
Some days are just not worth chewing through the restraints
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Re: Pole Barn suggestions
[re: gnawbone]
09/18/03 10:07 PM
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Put living quarters in my pole barn to use on weekends and hunting season. Has a 16 x 24 living area, with a complete kitchen including dishwasher, 10 X 11 bedroom, bath and utility room.
To finish it off, put inch and half styrofoam between the purlings, then plastic sheeting, then 2 x 6's on two foot centers, 5 1/2 inches insulation, (ceiling has 12 inches of insulation) then plastic again, finished it off with fire rated sheetrock, then paneling, looks good. Still working on the cabinets which could be a couple of more years for the doors and drawers, but using for the intended use now. The shop is finished the same way except for plywood on the walls and painted metal on the ceiling.
In retrospect, I should have used the firerated sheet rock on the garage side instead of the inside of the living area due to the garage sheeting.
For heating and air regular forced air furnaces were used with the ducting in the ceiling. The air in the shop has only been used twice in the last two years, and just because of the humidity, not the temperature. The air in the living quarters has only been used a couple of times when we have had the area filled with people during family gatherings.
The only other change that I would do if we had to do it again would be in floor heating to keep the floor warm during the winter.
We must have insulated well, as during the summer on a day that it is a 100 and sunny, it is under 70 in the "shed".
Our long term plan is to sell the house and build and we will have a place to stay in the interim.
So go for it, you will not regret it. You will also have a nice retreat after the house is built.
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Re: Pole Barn suggestions
[re: gnawbone]
09/22/03 02:06 AM
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If you put on a gambrel roof, you can put in a small apartment in the loft. My Dad's garage was built like that, a shop in the basement, garage on the ground floor, and bunkhouse, cub scout den in the loft.
A man's likely to mind his own business, if it is worth mindin' - Eric Hoffer
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Re: Pole Barn suggestions
[re: gnawbone]
09/22/03 11:32 AM
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We were looking at doing the same, but with a slight twist. Our property is 105 miles from our main residence, so weekend jaunts are the only way we can build. We looked into renting an apartment, building a shed we could sleep in, or just using a tent. In the end we bought a used travel trailer (1986 Terry 27 footer) for $4000. The trailer has a stove, bed, table, couch, and most importantly - a bathroom and a shower. We felt we could resell the trailer once we were though with the construction for the same (or close to) the price we paid.
Now that was the plan, and as with all things not everything turns out as expected. So far the shower has cracked making the tub unusable, the water heater will not stay lit, and the AC went out (cost $700 for a new unit). And to top it all off, no one likes to cook on the stove as it heats up the trailer too much. Still, it provides a somewhat comfortable sleeping quarters for 4 adults and is cool (OK it's darn right cold as the new AC seems to be possesed).
If I had it to do over again, I'd check the tub VERY CLOSELY for cracks, get a 90 day warranty on the whole shabang, and get a slightly larger tailer. I still think this is the best way to go and you should be able to resale at near, the same, or maybe even more than you paid.
Once the first house we are building is complete (it's for my parents) I plan on starting the stables. There will be an office in the stables that will have everything you are talking about - basically a small apartment. So in some respects I plan on following the same generally outline as you. My wife and I will stay at the first house while we build the stables, then switch to the stable apartment once it's complete. Then, it's onto construction of the main house (I think I'm going to be building for a very long time). 
Keith Foster
Katy and Yoakum, TX
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